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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Real Ranger??

I was out checking on a lead for some body parts, and I ran across this-





It had the ranger badges on the fenders, and bucket seats/console... Appears to have a ranger interior code-



G 81

Thought it was interesting... The guy that had it claimed it was real, and that he was the original owner. But, He seems to have a bit of "Barrett Jackson" syndrom, puts a pretty high price on everything he's got, including the parts I was looking for

Is it a real one?? He kept saying that there were only 125 made, which didn't sound right to me... I thought it was more than that...

-Andrew
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by andgott
I was out checking on a lead for some body parts, and I ran across this-





It had the ranger badges on the fenders, and bucket seats/console... Appears to have a ranger interior code-



G 81

Thought it was interesting... The guy that had it claimed it was real, and that he was the original owner. But, He seems to have a bit of "Barrett Jackson" syndrom, puts a pretty high price on everything he's got, including the parts I was looking for

Is it a real one?? He kept saying that there were only 125 made, which didn't sound right to me... I thought it was more than that...

-Andrew
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You must be out looking for that new cab. Nice find if it stands up. How much is he wanting. Im just trying to see how much smoke got blown up his you know where by somebody.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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You must be out looking for that new cab. Nice find if it stands up. How much is he wanting. Im just trying to see how much smoke got blown up his you know where by somebody.
Yup- Out looking for a cab- And I FOUND ONE. I'll be finalizing the deal in the next few days, hopefully... It's only a few hours from me. I was looking for a cab & other parts where I found the ranger... He had every part I could want, but some HIGH prices on most of it.

He wasn't really trying to sell the Ranger- I asked- He said he might consider selling, though he'd already turned down $10k for it, as is, no engine...
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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G81 is a real ranger with black interior... and, if that guy turned down 10 grand for a truck with no engine he is a fool.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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for every real one there are five recreated ones. Very easy to do.

See if the drapes match the carpet. Look at the vin on the frame as the door tag could have come from anywhere.

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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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Yeah, I thought passing up $10k would have been a bad move... But, he seemed to be one of those people that didn't like to part with his 'stuff'. The things he DID want to sell were priced kind of high. When I was looking at the cabs he had, He kept telling me "Oh, I can get $1200 for one of them at F-100 Nationals, so you're getting a GREAT deal"...
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 12:40 AM
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I can smell the stink all the way here in Cal.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by andgott
Is it a real Ranger?? He kept saying that there were only 125 made, which didn't sound right to me... I thought it was more than that...
No one knows how many Rangers were assembled, you wanna know why?

Ford THREW AWAY all the data that pertained to 1961/66 trucks decades ago.

R. L. Polk & Co. has kept production figure for the US automakers since the 19teens.

1965: All that's available for F100/350's are the production figures for each body style: Flareside, Styleside, Chassis & Cab, Open Drive-Away, Stake Bed and Flat Bed.

There is no breakdown available as to how many were: 2WD/4WD, 240/300 I-6, 352, types of transmissions, Rangers, Custom Cabs, Standard Cabs, yadda yadda yadda.

The figures available for 1966 are similar to 1965, except define how many were 2WD or 4WD...and that's it.
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1967/79 is a different story. In the late 1980's, Ford was planning to THROW AWAY all the data pertaining to all FoMoCo Passenger Cars, Trucks, Bronco's and Econolines.

Kevin Marti, a 'Mustang nut' in Phoenix AZ found out about the plan and got ALL of it. So, you can find out, for example, how many 1967 Rangers were assembled, how many had this feature, how many had that feature and etc.

But, there is a fee for Marti's info (martiauto.com)...which escalates depending on how much info you want. Known within the hobby as a Marti Report.
Originally Posted by Bill W
G81 is a real Ranger with black interior.
Correctamundo, but...the bucket seat, to my eyes, appears to be blue. How many '65/66 Rangers came with blue bucket seats? None, cuz Ford didn't offer blue.

The console is in-correct in more ways than one. It's light blue and looks nothing like the console used in Rangers, same as '63 Falcon Sprint. Where is the tray and glove box? No see-um.

So, is it really a Ranger w/a swapped in blue bucket seat and a console from lawd only knows what? Or, has the original left door been replaced by a used door?

btw: How many of y'all noticed the mistakes on the Warranty Plate? Whoever stamped it at the factory left off the first two digits of the RPM. There is no DSO code of 6, so...at least one number is missing.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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Thanks, Bill- I knew you'd be able to sort it out in a hurry.

You are correct- The seats are BLUE, as is the console. Not black as the code indicates that they should be.

And- The mistakes you pointed out on the warranty plate make it that much more suspect. He MIGHT actually think he's got the real thing, since he wasn't really trying to sell it to me, just impress me. Of course, he also claimed that he drove it off the lot brand new.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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Am I wrong but didn't the 'look/layout' of the tag change in 66' from the 65'. And that is a 65' grill and fender emblem frame. That also changed in 66'. Not sure what month in 65' that they stared putting 66' grills on them and listed them as 66's. Guess the was so many options that could be made if you special ordered them in 65' and 66' SOOOOOOO. Also, didn't the 66's have that push button window washer mounted just above the ignition switch? Again, I guess you could order it how you wanted it as long as it was a special order and not off the lot. BUT, I see not special order #.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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I wonder if at those '90s Econoline wheels when he drove it off the lot....
 
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Originally Posted by The Masked Rider
Am I wrong but didn't the 'look/layout' of the tag change in 66' from the 65'. And that is a 65' grill and fender emblem frame. That also changed in 66'. Not sure what month in 65' that they stared putting 66' grills on them and listed them as 66's. Guess the was so many options that could be made if you special ordered them in 65' and 66' SOOOOOOO. Also, didn't the 66's have that push button window washer mounted just above the ignition switch? Again, I guess you could order it how you wanted it as long as it was a special order and not off the lot. BUT, I see not special order #.
Ford never installed one 1966 grille in a 1965.

When 1965 production ended, Ford obsoleted the '65 grilles, replaced them with '66 grilles for use as service part replacements = parts sold at dealership parts counters.

September 1965, I ordered a '65 anodized Custom Cab grille (C5TZ-8200-B) so I could install it in my 1965 Standard Cab. When the grille arrived, it was C6TZ-8200-B.

The 1966 Warranty Plate is different than 1965.

There's no way to know if was a special order because the DSO code is wrong. It should have a minimum of two numbers (not a special order), or six numbers if a special order. But, whoever stamped it, only stamped one number.

The 1952/55 truck starter button (that's what it was originally!) was used as the w/shield washer switch on 1965 F100/250's and on 1966 F100/250's with single speed wipers.

1966's with 2 speed wipers incorporate the washer switch within the wiper switch.

btw: Domestic Special Orders apply only when vehicles have non standard RPO's (Regular Production Orders) installed, or have been painted non standard colors. The 6 digit code is necessary to order the correct parts.

Examples: A truck comes into the dealership, has a utility bed on it that the purchaser ordered special from Ford. When this occurred, Ford would send the Cab & Chassis out to an outside body maker after it left the assembly line.

The utility bed has a broken lock, so the dealer contacts Ford, passes along the 6 digit DSO. Ford looks up the order, then tells the dealer where a new lock can be obtained.

A truck is painted a non standard color, was involved in an accident. There is no color code, so in order to get the paint formula, the dealer contacts Ford with the 6 digit DSO.

Ford looks up the order number, then passes along the paint formula. This same DSO system is used today.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 02:53 AM
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So this is a 65'. I made a mistake. Thought I read it was a 66'. Thats why i questioned the tag and grill etc. O well, its late. So much for that.
What month did they or do they start the next yrs run, Sept.?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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August 1964, first 1965 serial number: 732,000
 
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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The hood emblem is for a i6, thought ''Ranger's had a V8? but guess you could order the
6 cylinder engine?
 
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