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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris72
Funny thing about luck, it eventually runs out.
Chris I don't mean to call you out but your preaching safety and said you have hids installed...



The word from Washington is - His words :

No HID retrofit kit can be legally sold. It is that simple.

Richard x. xxx xxxxxxxxx
Chief, Visibility and Injury Prevention Division
400 Seventh Street, S.W., Room 5307
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Washington, DC 20590
001 202 366 xxxx V
001 202 366 xxxx F
richard.xxxxxxxxxxxx@nhtsa.dot.gov

His last name is omitted as this is not for a forum post but was a answer to hid enforcement but, hes not hard to look up. If you want to look into it

Chief Counsel
400 Seventh Street, S.W., Room 5219
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Washington DC 20590
001 202 366 3820 F
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bankrupter
Chris I don't mean to call you out but your preaching safety and said you have hids installed...



The word from Washington is - His words :

No HID retrofit kit can be legally sold. It is that simple.

Richard x. xxx xxxxxxxxx
Chief, Visibility and Injury Prevention Division
400 Seventh Street, S.W., Room 5307
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Washington, DC 20590
001 202 366 xxxx V
001 202 366 xxxx F
richard.xxxxxxxxxxxx@nhtsa.dot.gov

His last name is omitted as this is not for a forum post but was a answer to hid enforcement but, hes not hard to look up. If you want to look into it

Chief Counsel
400 Seventh Street, S.W., Room 5219
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Washington DC 20590
001 202 366 3820 F
counsel@nhtsa.dot.gov

You may use postal service, facsimile or email. Please include your name,
address, and voice and facsimile telephone numbers.
Right on brother....Practice whatcha preach!
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Hids, from my understanding, are only illegal because you have us kids that go out and put them in non projector headlights in which you cant aim them properly causing them to blid on coming traffic. That and the moron kids that go and order 12 and 15k hids that are literally BLUE! Which could trchnically be impersinating a cop.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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On another note i also have the tinted headlights and i promise you they are brighter than the oem style. The tinted lights started out as clear where as the oem style lights are some what frosted.

I will admit that my turn signals are way to dark and do not light up very well. I do plan to order the tinted ones sometime though.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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HID are on one of my motorcycles. Not my truck. If you only have one headlight You make it bright as possible if you ride at night alot.

Your info is correct but it does not venture into the different lumens of light, Mine are the same as sunlight. Bright and way brighter than stock

Guess I could tint it and report my findings huh?

Your talking apples to oranges brother. Nice try though.

My big bike ( FJR1300) has good factory lighting, But I installed PIAA driving lights to augment it too. I love riding at night, Just dont like finding forest rats ( deer) the hard way.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris72
better than nothing, but still the tint takes away from reflective light.

I like my truck and dont want to get rear ended so I dont tint any of my lights. I install LED and HID to make my truck MORE visible, not less.

I am not trying to be a safety ****, But trying to justify these as safe is absolutle absurd. its your truck do what you will , but dont blow smoke and tell me its a safe practice to tint required safety lights on a vehicle and expect me to believe it. If installing LED made then as visible as factory, dont you thing factory production performance cars would have LED adn tinted lights?
Now you are forcing me to quote you. What is the lie? This post or the bike post?

O well you posted that not me and the law is the law and that is about safety

I am tired could just be my eyes reading what they want to see. But this looks to be about your truck and not a bike. Id never put a hid on my bike and set myself up to get killed ..
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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LED tail lights in the bike and truck, HID in the bike. I could have stated that better, i will agree to that.

I investigate a lot of traffic accident every year. I am all about making mysef visible and my intentions known. Smart safe thinking like that may be why i have over 450K miles on a bike since I was 16 and 23 years of driving experience including a CDL and dont have one wreck to all my time driving.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bankrupter
Now you are forcing me to quote you. What is the lie? This post or the bike post?

O well you posted that not me and the law is the law and that is about safety

I am tired could just be my eyes reading what they want to see. But this looks to be about your truck and not a bike. Id never put a hid on my bike and set myself up to get killed ..

Tickets can be paid, Dead people dont come back. I am talking about safety. The reason HID arent legal is the idiots that install the pink or purple lumen lights that are no where near as bright as a normal headlight just too look cool. Alot like tinting your tail lights.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Add a deer whistle to that bike. Had one on my K6GSXR1K (deer country here too) Good insurance they know your intentions too. Turn signals/hids dont tell them your coming. FJR is a nice cruiser. But I still would never put a hid on my bikes. I have been blinded by too many now. A bouncing hid on the front of a bike has to be super blinding. Never seen one yet to know but I know my projector blinds cars and that is meant to be on the bike.

Its not the color its the lenses. I was at the forefront of the fight about them in 04. I have a barrage of emails from NTSB. The one I posted, was the last. Like he told me, illegal period. I lost the fight.

For the record, I like smoked tail lights too. Not tinted. Factory type smoke like the pic of that 3rd LED tail light.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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My HID is only the Hi beam, I definately dont want to blind oncoming drivers. that would negate any safety that they added.

Custom suspensio will reduce /e;iminate any bouncing.

Deer whistle on my Connie didnt help Riding thru Shasta they were all over and the whistle didnt deterr them. Aux driving light made it possible for me to see them far enough in afdvance not hit them.

Never bought another whistle. Just didnt work for me.

Oh and the FJR is a sport tourer. Just had to jump in on that. I love it. Has almost 80K and still kicking. Bought it 3.5 years ago with 3700 miles on it.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris72
My HID is only the Hi beam
This I can agree on and have nothing more to say about it.


Originally Posted by Chris72
Oh and the FJR is a sport tourer. Just had to jump in on that. I love it.
Yea, buddy has one. They are nice 4 sure.

Sorry I jumped on you but you were so anti-tint and I saw HID and was like how can he be on both sides of the fence..

I have to go order some tail lights now. Ride safe...
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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You to brother. I have to jump on safety stuff. I see so many good people every year get hurt or killed because of phones, distractions and a few for tinted lights i am oversensative. No harm intended.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris72
Tinting to smoking your tail or brake lights is a bad idea. Why make yourself less visible. Its a helluva price to pay for vanity when you get rear ended adn the cop writes you the ticket and your at fault for not having working brake lights.

I try to make mine brighter if anything.

Most fo the smoke kits say they are NOT street legal and are for show purposes only.
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Why make yourself any less visible?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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Chris I don't mean to call you out but your preaching safety and said you have hids installed...

Dammit.. Right when I was about to post that

As for tinted lights. Most of the "tinted" lights have clear lenses but black backs to give the tinted look. Quite a few new cars are doing this.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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uhhh i think i should jump on the safety thingy here...I was driving a large ladder truck (fire fighter) in the kentucky state (leaving out certain details to protect those innocent and involved) and a kid who was about 18/19 was texting and driving and well they almost became a hood ordament on our ladder truck and yes its a 105' aerial ladder bucket truck and they dont stop on a dime and it was running to a call lights and sirens the who shebang and just because the kid was texting they nearly colided head on...bad...


on a side note my brother had the smoked lights with that night shade stuff (which IMO is blah and crap) and his tails (nissan altima) and the brakes are hard to see (i think he over did it but I may be wrong, cus i took a second pair that are a test set and followed the directions my self and same results) and tried stock bulbs, sylvania bulbs (silver stars) and even the LEDs, all were rather dim looking IMO...so I ripped off the lights and put them back to factory specs....my brother may annoy me but he doesn't annoy me enough to let him risk his life with that stuff, me Ill never be putting that stuff on my truck...just not worth the risk!!



now if you (OP) wish to use tinted lenses and all that stuff thats your call, but PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE be careful man, I hate to think about worst case scenarios, and I would hate to read about you in the papers....so please just be careful!!!!!!
 
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