Dually or Single?
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Dually or Single?
I am looking at getting a new truck and was set on getting a dually,but my dealer says that these new trucks there is no need for duallies anymore. I pull a 40 ft fifth wheel and a 28 ft livestock trailer and that is 90% of what this truck will be used for. Of coarse the dealer only has a single on the lot so is he just trying to move his inventory or is he right. I have never had a dually just thought it would be smart way to go. Now I don't know which way to go.
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The dealer is an idiot or just lying to sell their truck. 90% of the people that have them don't need them but there is still a need for heavy and/or tall loads. They are far more stable and can handle more pin weight.
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Techicnally he is correct the tire technology today no longer requires duals to carry the loads you are looking at but the comfort and stability issue may be a reason to go with a DRW, if I was doing 90% of my use hauling a 40' 5th wheel or stock trailer a DRW would be hands down the choice as it's a easier ride with less sway while driving especially in windy conditions, as well as the tire wear is abought 30% better with a DRW as you are reducing the individual tire heating by cutting it's load % I don't know if this will ever offset the extra cost of the extra tires but in my experience it has! Good luck and WELCOME TO FTE
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2012 Ford Super Duty | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com payload rating
2012 Ford Super Duty | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com Towing rating
Depending on the wheelbase a dually can carry as much as 2000# more than a single wheel.
A dually can tow 6000# more on a 5th wheel
Remember that the costs for tires goes up 50% with a dually.
6 vs 4
2012 Ford Super Duty | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com Towing rating
Depending on the wheelbase a dually can carry as much as 2000# more than a single wheel.
A dually can tow 6000# more on a 5th wheel
Remember that the costs for tires goes up 50% with a dually.
6 vs 4
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Welcome M Frank. If I were you I'd;
1. Definately get the DRW
2. Use a different stealership if at all possible.
The stearlership's job is to help you get the vehicle you need/want not just move thier inventory. There's making money then there's pushing stuff just cause they need to. From what you've told us, I'd say you need a DRW truck.
1. Definately get the DRW
2. Use a different stealership if at all possible.
The stearlership's job is to help you get the vehicle you need/want not just move thier inventory. There's making money then there's pushing stuff just cause they need to. From what you've told us, I'd say you need a DRW truck.
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If the truck will be used primarily for pulling I think you will like the extra stability and weight hauling capacity the DRW truck offers. If the truck was not primarily a dedicated tow vehicle I would say get the SRW but I think the DRW suits your needs better. Your not exactly pulling tiny trailers. I agree the dealer just wants to bleed off his current inventory and could care less about your actual needs.
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You want to test the dealer knowledge? Ask them what is 50 to 60 mph acceleration time for the vehicles they are selling.
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I have an F-350 SRW that I use mostly for towing but the loads I'm towing are not as large as a 40' fifth wheel.
While I have not had any issues towing anything I want (including a 14K goose neck trailer with skid steer) I only do it for relatively short distances (<50 miles). If I was towing my 40' fifth wheel I would agree with the rest and get a dually. The stability that you'll want with towing something with as much windage as a 40' fifth wheel is only provided with a dually.
Good luck!
While I have not had any issues towing anything I want (including a 14K goose neck trailer with skid steer) I only do it for relatively short distances (<50 miles). If I was towing my 40' fifth wheel I would agree with the rest and get a dually. The stability that you'll want with towing something with as much windage as a 40' fifth wheel is only provided with a dually.
Good luck!
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Tire costs will actually be less because you will not be replacing them as often. GET THE DUALLY, and NOT from that dealer. he has no concern for what you need just what he wants to sell.
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I drive F450 dually and I haul heavy. One time I had a flat and having 14-ply tires, I decided to continue on singles on the rear. The tires hold, but the drive instantly become white knuckles drive.
Dually will cost more not only in tire cost, but in higher fuel consumption, but you want cheap towing, get Yugo.
Dually will cost more not only in tire cost, but in higher fuel consumption, but you want cheap towing, get Yugo.
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Thanks everyone for your input sounds like everyone is on the same page here. The salesman said in 2011 ford redid the rear suspension and made it idiot proof when it comes to handling. You can load the trailer and truck totally wrong and it will correct itself. So these new single wheel trucks are just as good as the old duallies. Don't take this the wrong way i'm not wanting to go against you guys this is just his sales pitch. Thanks for all the input I just found this web site this morning and so far I am liking it.