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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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Cool NEGATIVE BATTERY WIRE STILL ARCHING

hey yall after my wire meltdown yesterday after i started my truck and it sounded like the starter kept trying to start, i went and got some thick 2gauge wire and made up new negative cable and i had both positive and negative off the battery and the key was off. so i went and put the negative cable up and no arch on the battery post but when i went to rehook the postive it arch an sparked. please some one help me and i have to wires touching any metal or exposed
 
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jtipton331stroker
hey guys went to start my truck this afternoon and it started right up and made a wierd noise in the start so i shut it off and looked and smoke was coming under the hood so i open the hood to find the negative side main battery wire was melting the insulation off of itself and i unhooked it but when i put it back on the start clicks and the wire heats up again? any help please there is a hurricane coming my way and i need to move my truck

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hey yall after my wire meltdown yesterday after i started my truck and it sounded like the starter kept trying to start, i went and got some thick 2gauge wire and made up new negative cable and i had both positive and negative off the battery and the key was off. so i went and put the negative cable up and no arch on the battery post but when i went to rehook the postive it arch an sparked. please some one help me and i have to wires touching any metal or exposed
This is going to be a stuck starter solenoid (aka starter relay), it' got an electromagnet inside that connects the battery to the starter motor when power is applied to the red/blue-stripe wire on the S terminal (#5):

From Franklin2's diagrams:








The things are wear items, they burn up as time goes on. The contacts inside get welded together.




You might be able to tap on it some wtih a hammer and get it to free up, it might work for a little while afterwards but you should still replace it.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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thanks man i changed it and it has no more archs but i took the starter off and hooked a jump box to it and its not working so im changing it now
 
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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solenoid probably stuck and you were driving it with the starter engaged, burning the starter up. With the new starter and you should be good to go!
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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I'm currently having that problem. I've changed the starter, the solenoid 3 times and the Ignition switch. Thought I fixed it the last time by fixing the ignition switch and solenoid at the same time but it will work for a while and eventually do it again. This last time some box thing that was connected to the negative wire started to smoke. Does anyone know what could be happening?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sosborne87
I'm currently having that problem. I've changed the starter, the solenoid 3 times and the Ignition switch. Thought I fixed it the last time by fixing the ignition switch and solenoid at the same time but it will work for a while and eventually do it again. This last time some box thing that was connected to the negative wire started to smoke. Does anyone know what could be happening?
What year is your truck? Where are you buying your solenoids? What brand are they?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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A weak battery can cause those relays to go bad pretty quick.. The low amperage causes the contacts to burn quicker..
 
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I have a 1987 5.8L. Its a brand new battery. the starter went out and I had this shop just fix it cause I didn't want to deal with it so they have just been trading me the whole time. They are the motorcraft brand. One thing I did notice is that the way they hooked it up at the shop is the positive and extra wires are on the far prong and the wire to the starter is on the closest one to the battery. I don't know if that changes things.
So that last time when it was smoking, later when I went out when it was cooled down. I found that the negative wire just had a plastic casing to cover another metal object, but the wire burnt in half at that point. I also read that maybe the cable on my positive side isn't thick enough?

I love this truck but all these things make me want to just smash it up haha.
 
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