'51 F4 project
#301
Thanks guys. I got some more done today.
I decided to use a spruce board as a backstop for my fuse panel and barrier strips. I painted it black. I used the barrier strips between everything in the cab and everything outside the cab to make it easy to remove everything again when I get it ready for paint.
Here's the panel mounted.
And here's what I got done today. I haven't tidied up the bundles yet. I'll wait until all of the wiring is done. The barrier strip on the right is for the turn signals
I didn't buy a wiring harness, and I'm making my own from wire I got cheap at Harbor Freight. My color code matches the original by the use of shrink tubing. Here's an example for the ignition switch, which should be Yellow to AM (power), Red with Green Stripe to Coil, and Black with Green Stripe to Gauges. The wire on the right looks like brown with a green stripe, but that's actually black. So the long shrink tube is the wire color, and the short is the stripe. The red wire didn't need a long piece (because the wire is red). I marked them at both ends.
I also cleaned up my gauges while I had them out, and the chrome came out pretty nice.
And here's a look under the hood so far.
It's supposed to rain again tomorrow, so I don't know if I'll get anything else done, but maybe this weekend...
I decided to use a spruce board as a backstop for my fuse panel and barrier strips. I painted it black. I used the barrier strips between everything in the cab and everything outside the cab to make it easy to remove everything again when I get it ready for paint.
Here's the panel mounted.
And here's what I got done today. I haven't tidied up the bundles yet. I'll wait until all of the wiring is done. The barrier strip on the right is for the turn signals
I didn't buy a wiring harness, and I'm making my own from wire I got cheap at Harbor Freight. My color code matches the original by the use of shrink tubing. Here's an example for the ignition switch, which should be Yellow to AM (power), Red with Green Stripe to Coil, and Black with Green Stripe to Gauges. The wire on the right looks like brown with a green stripe, but that's actually black. So the long shrink tube is the wire color, and the short is the stripe. The red wire didn't need a long piece (because the wire is red). I marked them at both ends.
I also cleaned up my gauges while I had them out, and the chrome came out pretty nice.
And here's a look under the hood so far.
It's supposed to rain again tomorrow, so I don't know if I'll get anything else done, but maybe this weekend...
#302
Hey- that's a familiar looking fuse panel!! Looking good! I like the idea of using colored heat shrink on each end. Still have to draft up a revised wiring diagram for the truck now that dad's got it pretty much wrapped up. Keep up the good work! You'll be amazed how much better everything will work with the new wiring.
I've been keeping track of the revised wiring with the added barrier strips and destination for all the fuses so I can store that info with the wiring diagram I got from ClassicCarWiring.com. I know that next week I'll forget what I did. Plus, the original wiring diagram doesn't show turn signals, electric wiper motor and switch or the cigar lighter.
But I did discover something else when I took the speedo out. This truck came wired from the factory with turn signal bulbs in it. But since the truck was not ordered with the turn signals, those two wires were connected to the instrument light wire. That explains why I always had both arrows illuminated when I turned on the lights. And if I did it correctly, I should get those arrows to light when I use the turn signals. Just like downtown.
#303
Getting there...
I worked on the wiring again today, and got a lot accomplished.
The only wires left to run are for headlights and high beams, taillights, park lights, brake light switch and turn signals.
I reinstalled the gauges, speedometer, starter button, wiper switch, light switch and ignition switch and tucked up some of the wires. I'll finish tying them up after they're all in.
Then I tested what I could with the battery charger. I'm not putting the battery back in until the high beam switch is back in. Everything that I could test works. I had one problem to fix with an instrument light, but that was my own poor workmanship.
Here's the dash back together.
This is the fuse/barrier strips panel today. I added another fused circuit for the cigar lighter. That circuit isn't on my wiring diagram, so I didn't think of it during the planning stage. So now I'm using 7 fuses. That leaves 7 for future "enhancements" of which I can think of none that I want to add.
Here's the new harness before it's wrapped. Yes, I had a lot of red wire. But you can see my color coding scheme on the voltage regulator left to right: Yellow with a black stripe, Black with a white stripe, and Yellow.
And here are the wires to the generator, coil, temp and oil gauges. Did I mention all the gauges seem to be working?
I really hope this thing fires up again when I'm finished with the rewire. And that all the new circuits work like I planned.
More later... It's Fat Tire time.
The only wires left to run are for headlights and high beams, taillights, park lights, brake light switch and turn signals.
I reinstalled the gauges, speedometer, starter button, wiper switch, light switch and ignition switch and tucked up some of the wires. I'll finish tying them up after they're all in.
Then I tested what I could with the battery charger. I'm not putting the battery back in until the high beam switch is back in. Everything that I could test works. I had one problem to fix with an instrument light, but that was my own poor workmanship.
Here's the dash back together.
This is the fuse/barrier strips panel today. I added another fused circuit for the cigar lighter. That circuit isn't on my wiring diagram, so I didn't think of it during the planning stage. So now I'm using 7 fuses. That leaves 7 for future "enhancements" of which I can think of none that I want to add.
Here's the new harness before it's wrapped. Yes, I had a lot of red wire. But you can see my color coding scheme on the voltage regulator left to right: Yellow with a black stripe, Black with a white stripe, and Yellow.
And here are the wires to the generator, coil, temp and oil gauges. Did I mention all the gauges seem to be working?
I really hope this thing fires up again when I'm finished with the rewire. And that all the new circuits work like I planned.
More later... It's Fat Tire time.
#304
And now for a word from our alternate sponsor...
Yesterday I commented about the turn signal "arrows" and the light bulbs in the dash. I said they were wired as dash lights since the truck didn't come with turn signals.
So, once again, I didn't know what I was talking about. The 51 speedo assembly has 5 light sockets: one for high beam indicator, 2 for turn signal "arrows" and 2 for instrument lights. When the PO last reinstalled the 2 instrument light holders, he plugged them in to the turn signal holes. I put them where they belong when I reassembled the dash, and now my instrument lights are much brighter (as they should be) and I don't have the green arrows on all the time the lights are on. Imagine that.
If I can find the correct lamp sockets, I'll install turn signal "arrow" lights in the future. Has anyone seen these for sale anywhere?
So, once again, I didn't know what I was talking about. The 51 speedo assembly has 5 light sockets: one for high beam indicator, 2 for turn signal "arrows" and 2 for instrument lights. When the PO last reinstalled the 2 instrument light holders, he plugged them in to the turn signal holes. I put them where they belong when I reassembled the dash, and now my instrument lights are much brighter (as they should be) and I don't have the green arrows on all the time the lights are on. Imagine that.
If I can find the correct lamp sockets, I'll install turn signal "arrow" lights in the future. Has anyone seen these for sale anywhere?
#305
I was just rereading my thread, and see I never answered your questions.
No, Charlie does not live with us.
I don't know that we'll ever fire another group project rocket. We have no plans to do so.
I'm a District Service Manager for a business equipment manufacturer. I've worked for the same company for over 37 years. My territory is the western 13 states.
Sorry for the much delayed response.
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I went out after dark to check everything again, and I'm really pleased with the results. Betsy now has working headlights, park lights, taillights and turn signals. She had none of them when I got her.
The barrier strips are instead of connectors. I got some connectors, but the pins were too small for the 10, 12 and 14 gauge wire. So I decided to use the barrier strips. I will be removing all the wiring and components again someday when I'm ready to paint, and I felt this would make it easier to disassemble and reassemble.
Only seven circuits are fused: ignition switch, cigar lighter, stop switch, 30 and 15 amp to the light switch, dome light and turn signals.
I'll update again tomorrow after I finish the job. I still have to reinstall the seat and wrap the harness and secure it properly.
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Then I came back into the house to upload these pics, and had a PM from Stu McMillan about some Craigslisted RV wheels and tires less than 8 miles from me. So I drove over immediately to check them out. I ended up buying seven wheels and tires for $50 each! Four of the tires are like new! So, I'll be giving him four widow makers tomorrow morning for towing away his RV.
Thanks again Stu! YOU ROCK!!!
And now for another dumb question from the rookie... The fellow I'm buying the wheels from loaned me a tool for breaking loose the lugnuts. It's like a giant ratchet with a gearbox which gives you at least double the force. My lugnuts came loose like butter. The scratched up label on it says X4 Corp 7D-750. It's about 4" in diameter. Anyone have any idea what this tool is called? I think it must be a torque multiplier (Google) but I'm not sure.
#313
Like I said in the latest pm, Joe, glad it worked out. Glad you got all seven, glad you got good tires, glad the price was right, glad you didn't have to crawl around in some yard to find them, and glad you didn't have too much $4.00 gas invested. It was meant to be.
That tool is a torque multiplier. I guess I've seen a pic of one like it, but it's not like mine. Mine is the big cluncky type like in this picture. Works, but I normally end up using a BFH to really get the job done.
Again, glad it worked out. Stu
That tool is a torque multiplier. I guess I've seen a pic of one like it, but it's not like mine. Mine is the big cluncky type like in this picture. Works, but I normally end up using a BFH to really get the job done.
Again, glad it worked out. Stu
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