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Cargo Master
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Forecasting
150,000 miles plausible?
I'm just thinking here. I drive about 25,000 a year and I intend to keep my truck for a long time. 6 years will put me at around 150,000 miles. In that time span what all do you see needing worked on other than the usual maintenance (fluid changes, filters, tires, maybe a set of batteries)?
I'm just thinking here. I drive about 25,000 a year and I intend to keep my truck for a long time. 6 years will put me at around 150,000 miles. In that time span what all do you see needing worked on other than the usual maintenance (fluid changes, filters, tires, maybe a set of batteries)?
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From: Upstate NY
Read this article. Specifically the section titled "Testing the Engine". I'd say150 K should be a walk in the park. The factory durability tests do not really account for things that degrade with time as well as they do for use since all of the testing is completed in a relatively short period of time however the test program was pretty extensive. At 25K/yr you will be putting those miles on in a relatively short period of time yourself.
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From: Greenwood, SC
I have 62,000 on mine in 13 months. From what I can tell I have no reason to be concerned over anything as I approach 150,000. This engine gives me confidence but I can't say for a fact that something won't go wrong in the next 12 months.
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From: Northern Arizona
You already stated fluid changes so you know a cooling system flush or two will be needed in that mileage/time span. For both systems, I believe. I can't think of anything else the engine would need, unless a part fails. How long does a turbocharger last?
If you tow then maybe a transmission rebuild would be a possibility at that mileage. I've not read any reports or threads about the first generation Torqshift and how long it averages until a rebuild is necessary. This version, 2nd generation, is too new for longevity reports.
So far my confidence in this engine and truck is far better than my '05 6.0.
If you tow then maybe a transmission rebuild would be a possibility at that mileage. I've not read any reports or threads about the first generation Torqshift and how long it averages until a rebuild is necessary. This version, 2nd generation, is too new for longevity reports.
So far my confidence in this engine and truck is far better than my '05 6.0.
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In my opinion these trucks are still at the beginning of their prime at 150,000 miles. This assumes that proper maintenance and reasonable driving habits are being followed. I also think it could depend on what span of time you are talking about. It takes me about six years to hit 150K on a vehicle. I drove my last truck, 2005 F250 6.0, to 120K before trading it in. It still ran and looked like the day I bought it.
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we would run most of our 7.3's to 400,000 miles before selling them off.
most of our 6.0's have over 100,000 and several are over 200,000 and still running strong.
I don't see any issues with this new 6.7 going the distance at all, and 150K should be just a stroll in the park.
most of our 6.0's have over 100,000 and several are over 200,000 and still running strong.
I don't see any issues with this new 6.7 going the distance at all, and 150K should be just a stroll in the park.
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There are some things on the rest of the truck that may need replacement before then. I agree with Jack about balljoints and struts, and the front hubs may also need to be replaced by then. Also might need u-joints.
But I don't see anything major going wrong with the engine in that time. These engines use a Bosch injection system which has been the industry standard for years. Far better than the Siemens system the 6.4L engine uses!
But I don't see anything major going wrong with the engine in that time. These engines use a Bosch injection system which has been the industry standard for years. Far better than the Siemens system the 6.4L engine uses!
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I didn't know that about the different injection systems. I thought they were pretty similar!
I have a lot of faith in this 6.7. I didn't even buy an extended warranty on it...and I may not considering how few problems I read.
I have a lot of faith in this 6.7. I didn't even buy an extended warranty on it...and I may not considering how few problems I read.
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Other than the manufacturer you're exactly correct! The 6.4L trucks are having enough HPFP problems to be concerned about at this point, and so far I've only seen one or two on 6.7L trucks. Both Dodge/Cummins and Chevy/Duramax use Bosch injection systems in their diesel engines, and pump failures are rare. I'm convinced these are well-built systems!
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I have a 2011 SD FX4 I will put about 40K miles a year ...towing a small work trailer. I purchased a 5 year 125k mile bumper to bumper Ford warranty. I will also purchase the 7 year 200K diesel motor warranty just before the truck reaches 36K miles. I try to limit the amount the amount of money spent on repairs....even though I'am spending monies on warranties....I hope to recoup all the monies. I have make sure that the the transmission is serviced every 30K miles, the axles,transfer case fluids will be changed at 50K miles, brake and power steering fluids changed out at 100K miles. The fuel filter replaced at 10K miles and oil changed by me at 5K miles. The coolant I plan on having the dearler handle....any other issues truck componets I would hope if they fail .....they are covered by the warranties.
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Don't take it the wrong way, but paying for a warranty expecting to come out ahead is like going to a casino trying to pay your rent. The deck is stacked against you.
Your extended warranty is an insurance policy through Ford, and like any other insurance policy they weigh the risk and charge a premium that's higher than the actual risk in order to turn a profit. They know the risk because they have access to the failure rates and warranty data that the rest of us don't, and that's how they come up with their premiums. I don't think they make much on them, and possibly have lost money on some of the previous trouble-prone PSDs, but there is a profit, and therefore the odds are against you.
These are great investments for those who can afford the premium but can't afford a $15K engine failure out of warranty. In this situation the risk of loss justifies the premium. Just don't have the expectation that you'll make money on it!
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Good luck!
Don't take it the wrong way, but paying for a warranty expecting to come out ahead is like going to a casino trying to pay your rent. The deck is stacked against you.
Your extended warranty is an insurance policy through Ford, and like any other insurance policy they weigh the risk and charge a premium that's higher than the actual risk in order to turn a profit. They know the risk because they have access to the failure rates and warranty data that the rest of us don't, and that's how they come up with their premiums. I don't think they make much on them, and possibly have lost money on some of the previous trouble-prone PSDs, but there is a profit, and therefore the odds are against you.
These are great investments for those who can afford the premium but can't afford a $15K engine failure out of warranty. In this situation the risk of loss justifies the premium. Just don't have the expectation that you'll make money on it!
Don't take it the wrong way, but paying for a warranty expecting to come out ahead is like going to a casino trying to pay your rent. The deck is stacked against you.
Your extended warranty is an insurance policy through Ford, and like any other insurance policy they weigh the risk and charge a premium that's higher than the actual risk in order to turn a profit. They know the risk because they have access to the failure rates and warranty data that the rest of us don't, and that's how they come up with their premiums. I don't think they make much on them, and possibly have lost money on some of the previous trouble-prone PSDs, but there is a profit, and therefore the odds are against you.
These are great investments for those who can afford the premium but can't afford a $15K engine failure out of warranty. In this situation the risk of loss justifies the premium. Just don't have the expectation that you'll make money on it!
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The monies on ext / warranties that I have spent on the last Superduty ...I recouped on one repair (HPFP) that was done when the truck reached 117K miles. Your right ....think of ext / warranties as insurance....I have that peace of mind....I will not have to spend large amount of monies on any major repairs.....
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The Premium Care ESP on my '05 saved me from the out of pocket expense of replacing the FICM and the STC fitting. All in all, I think I came out ahead and was glad I had it.
As for the longevity of the 6.7, from everything I've seen ,read, and experienced, I have no reason to doubt it'll run well into the 100ks easily.
As for the longevity of the 6.7, from everything I've seen ,read, and experienced, I have no reason to doubt it'll run well into the 100ks easily.