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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 12:56 AM
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How does door rust start? Could it be...

I was stripping a door down today and noticed how the lock is held in place by that clip that gets installed through the slot behind the door skin. Well that is a convenient place for water to get into , being that it is on the weather side of the weatherstrip!!!

Do most doors start to rust at the back rear corners? That slot would explain it. (aside from shoddy window seals, leaking mirror mount bolts, and people not washing their door bottoms!)

My doors will be getting minor rust along the bottom seam fixed and I'm going to have that slot welded shut. I'm going to use a different similar clip, the lock seems to be the same size as the one off of my dads 94 Nissan truck(I put speakers in for him and had the locks rebuilt for his Bday). I'll have to take a junkyard tour and look at different lock setups to be sure of sizes.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 01:03 AM
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My thoughts are that yeah, maybe some water gets in there, but most probably gets in at the bottom of the window. I haven't seen an old car/truck that hasn't had that rubber piece all cracked and hard. One little gap, and the water that gets to that point has free reign on the inside of the door. If you were really worried about it, you could put some silicone around the clip. That way you can still remove it if you want, but wouldn't have to worry about it otherwise.

The real problem is the drain holes at the bottom get plugged, then water just sits there.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 03:51 AM
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Water will find a way to get in no matter what you do. My guess would be the outer window seal as the weak point... The best thing I have found to do is just be ready for it. Water management is key. Its gonna get in no matter what, Just make an easy out for it. Leave the door open and hit it with a pressure washer and watch the path and put a hole where it wants to puddle (be sure to coat the hole with something). Look at how many super duty tailgates rust at the bottom due to the holes for the plastic trim in the top. In my super duty I drilled 6 holes in the bottom of the tail gate and then rhino lined the inside of it. Not a spec of rust after 6 years.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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Make sure the drain holes on the bottom are open, and that the door is not full of dirt/mud/debris. Its always going to get in there, just make sure it has a way to get out.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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The doors are designed to have water enter the inside-hence the drain holes. Even the new trucks, cars are still designed this way. You won't ever seal the doors 100% and if you do you will really get rust issues.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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The drain holes are staying, I'm just trying to minimize water intrusion, I'll be putting new window felts/seals in as well, once I find a good place to buy them from.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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I got in my '04 ranger one day after not driving it for awhile and heard a sloshing noise, at least I thought I did. Kept hearing it and when I parked and opened the door, I realized it was coming from there. There are two plastic , loose fitting plugs on the drivers doors and I pulled one down and out came about 2 gals of water. The passenger door didnt have the plugs and I removed them from the drivers side as well.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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If the rust isn't bad I would scrub the inside with a wire brush and ophro or Metal Ready from Por15. Let it cure and repeat then either Por15 or epoxy prime and seal the inside lower section.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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Well on the subject of door rust.. How does door rust start 3/4 of the way up in the front of the door right in the middle of the wing window? like where the seal meets the door?
 
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 73f250highboy
Well on the subject of door rust.. How does door rust start 3/4 of the way up in the front of the door right in the middle of the wing window? like where the seal meets the door?
That is strange. Do you have a picture?

Could have been a spot that didn't get primed/painted well or that was damaged during installation.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 02:21 PM
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That is strange. Do you have a picture?

Could have been a spot that didn't get primed/painted well or that was damaged during installation.
Ill get a picture ina minute...
 
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The bottom of the door really suffered. the top and the door jam are pitted
 
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Strange. That can be wire brushed off and treated/primed though.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Yeah, won't seal very well. Its pitted bad
 
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Yeah, Take it down to bare metal then hit it with some epoxy primer.

Spray Max Epoxy Primer aerosol
 
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