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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Start truck and voltage climbs to 12.5 at idle. Driving down road voltage climbs to 13-13.7. Within a couple of miles voltage drops below 12 and battery light comes on. I have load tested batteries they are good. Bench tested alternator by my starter and alternator builder. That tested good after 10 minutes of loading it. It was nice and hot and I replaced the belt. Any ideas?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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I know the ECM controls alternator output. How do you test that?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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The ECM doesn't control alternator output unless you have dual alternators and it only controls the second alternator. The alternator is controlled by the Hybrid Electric Cluster. Check the plug-in on back of the alternator. The wire can break internally and cause a battery light. Saw one last week.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Here's a print might be some help if you are handy with a meter. I'm on a cellphone not sure if link will work.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ictureid=67445
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 07:38 AM
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Are the fusible links buried inside wire looms? I am thinking one of those has gone bad
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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I haven't had to chase those down before but it looks like ther are two somewhere near the passenger side battery and another in the harness behind the alternator. I posted the print in agreement with partsman so you could identify the "I" circuit LG/RD (light green/red stripe). IRRC the batt light has power not shown on print and is turned OFF when power is present in the I circuit. Be sure to note connection at back of alt as well as inside alt housing.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cak301
Start truck and voltage climbs to 12.5 at idle. Driving down road voltage climbs to 13-13.7. Within a couple of miles voltage drops below 12 and battery light comes on. I have load tested batteries they are good. Bench tested alternator by my starter and alternator builder. That tested good after 10 minutes of loading it. It was nice and hot and I replaced the belt. Any ideas?
If it was a fuseable link it wouldn't charge at all, not intermittantly.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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I have been having this exact problem for a while now. Right down to the voltage dropping after driving a few miles, then climbing back up to around 13.3-.7. Just this past weekend the light became constant. I ordered a DC power alternator Monday. Let you know how that works out.
 
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I think it's an internal problem in the alternator either with the slip ring or the brush/regulator assembly. I went through this on my daughter's Escape 4 times and it's been the alternator every time. The springs break in the brush assembly and make intermitent contact on the slip ring. Replaced the assembly and problem solved.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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What and where is the hybrid electric cluster?
 
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Instrument panel.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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Oh. Is that like calling the garbage man a waste management engineer?
 
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Exactly! Haha
 
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Follow up. DC Power alternator arrived today. Bolted right on in minutes, plugged into factory wiring and no more problem. Paid about the same, including shipping, as a chain store chinese rebuild. Instead got a brand new, assembled in US(not sure where all the parts are made) higher than stock output unit and got to keep the core as well. I will try and repair it as a spare. Best of luck in the repair just thought I'd share my experience with the same issue.
 
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