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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 10:28 PM
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I guess I will have to respectfully agree to disagree .
Well you can disagree but engineering and practice say different but if you wanna disagree with fact all the power to ya.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 07:31 AM
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Must not be a big problem as they worked as well in reverse. What was push is now pull. We had M48s and M88s in some tough spots in Korea (13th Engineers) and never threw a track.


 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 09:58 AM
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Rear drive is more commonly used for packaging reasons that's it. Front drive is the preferred way to drive caterpillar tracks. That is the reason the vast majority of tracked vehicles through out history have been front sprocket drives. Even today the only rear drive caterpillar tracked vehicles in the U.S army are the MBT chassis's, and this was due to packaging, everything else is front sprocket drive. And this is not just for the U.S but for every body.
Don't mean to be whipping a dead horse, but can you show me a Caterpillar, John Deere, International Harvester, Allis Chalmers, Fiat, Dresser, Mitsubishi, et al crawler, that has front sprocket drive? The law of physics states; "It is much easier to pull rope than to push it". Even excavators and tracked cranes that have hydrostatic drives, where the location of the sprockets could be moot, they are still on the rear.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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They will both work quite well if the front drive sprocket is higher allowing the slack to hang down . I drive a snowcat ( rear drive ) in the winter and it is an amazing machine for pushing huge amounts of snow but will back blade only a fraction without skipping on the drives as the slack is concentrated in a very small area between the drive sprocket and the ground .
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mixer man
Don't mean to be whipping a dead horse, but can you show me a Caterpillar, John Deere, International Harvester, Allis Chalmers, Fiat, Dresser, Mitsubishi, et al crawler, that has front sprocket drive? The law of physics states; "It is much easier to pull rope than to push it". Even excavators and tracked cranes that have hydro-static drives, where the location of the sprockets could be moot, they are still on the rear.
That is packaging. And this is why on the big dozers they moved the sprockets off the rear and mounted them high as rear position has disadvantages especially in track clearing in muddy conditions. The other advantage of front sprocket drives is it allows for much higher speeds as the unsupported portion of the track is under tension to help prevent fly out from centrifugal forces. There is also the issues of brake dive which is more pronounced in rear drive units, additionally the possibly of throwing tracks during brake turns is much higher in rear drive units as the slack collects in front of the drive..
In cranes and other low speed equipment their is is no advantage to driving the rear or the front except in track clearing for mud as they have no suspension. The majority of tracked vehicles that operate at other single digit speeds are front drive. The exception being modern MBT's which are rear drive for packaging and armour protection and weight distribution reasons, and even the then there are exceptions such as the Merkva.
Other than MBT's and low speed equipment you are hard pressed to find rear driven tracked vehicles.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 06:55 PM
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While exploring on the site I came across these pictures and wondered what they were used for then noticed the float plane in the background and figured it out then googled , Thought they were odd enough to post in this thread

 
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 07:33 PM
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I've seen those float plane trucks before, they are pretty cool!!

Interesting idea
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 07:35 PM
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First I ever seen them..
 
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 11:50 PM
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I have never seen this before. Crazy. Thanks for sharing. They did a fabulous job on that silver Ford modifying the bed.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 06:12 PM
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:06 PM
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LOL

Definitely needs something to break up that huge slab on the side of the hood...
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:36 PM
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And lose the wheels .
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 11:01 PM
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Right on Flattie!!!
 
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Old May 31, 2019 | 06:06 PM
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Here is an unusual Marmon-Herrington custom F1 for sale locally.
Check out what looks to be 5-lug wheels? The cab says F1, but the front fenders appear to be F2-and up.
Not sure if this is a custom coach built rig, or what.

https://maine.craigslist.org/grd/d/s...896158494.html

 
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Old May 31, 2019 | 07:32 PM
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That's a long bed for F1. Maybe the MH all wheel drive needs a bigger wheel opening.

Granite and marble works..... You'd think they'd have a bigger truck.
 
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