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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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Rear Diff issues

I am changing the rear wheel seal today and figured i would change the rear diff fluid while i was at it. I popped the cover to find some pretty good gouges in the metal around the gears. What could cause this. Also i am having a terrible time getting the rear seal out of the hub. Is there a special tool or way of getting this out?
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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I don't know what would cause that and you not notice anything, so maybe it is a little left over carnage from a previous repair? Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in, but if everything is tight and it drives good, I would refill it and be on my way!

I did both of my axle seals last year and one of them was real easy to knock out of the rear hub. The other one I could never find where the seal ended and the hub metal started. I ended up tearing the seal out piece by piece and it dang near drove me crazy. I think I never got it quite right bc on one side I pushed the new scotseal in by hand, and on the side that gave me trouble, I had to use a rubber mallet. I think I sat the hub up on 2 blicks of wood, and used another piece of wood as a battering ram with a BFH to drive out the old seals. You can get pretty creative as long as you dont bugger up the hub metal.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Looks like it was caused by the pinion sliding back and making contact with the carrier. Make sure your pinion is tight (likely is unless you're leaking oil from the pinion seal) and if it's tight I would guess it's damage from previous owner.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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thats factory ls right a po might have tred doing a burn out and broke some thing
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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yes it is factory limited slip. I have never noticed anything that would cause carnage like that
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by swooshcmk
Looks like it was caused by the pinion sliding back and making contact with the carrier. Make sure your pinion is tight (likely is unless you're leaking oil from the pinion seal) and if it's tight I would guess it's damage from previous owner.
Exactly what I was thinking
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Pinion seal is tight, it is actually new along with the yoke because the other yoke tabs wore out and the u-joint would not stay centered in the yoke. i am thinking that i was damage from po also. Will this cause any premature failure in the diff.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 05:04 PM
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I cant see where it will cause any problems... Maybe .0001% weaker than new.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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well thats good news
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 04:03 AM
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Although it does look like hell lol. I went GAH when i saw the first picture lol. I say your fine......
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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Yea, it can't be from a current issue, if your pinion was that far in and jamming into the case you'd notice. Plus, if the oil you drained is free of significant metal shards (I see some fair sized chunks missing from the case), it had to have happenned before the last time the fluid was changed.

As for the seal, its an internal 3-jaw puller and slide hammer, but before I got that I used to get them out with a bar and a hammer from the opposite side (i.e. put the bar through where the spindle goes form the other side). Just push the bearing out of the way and watch you don't score the races!
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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Got it all back together yesterday with no problems. There where a couple small metal fragments in the bottom of the diff case and some metal flakes on the fill plug. I think all will be good.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 03:30 PM
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I think it will do brilliantly (Been hanging around too many british folk sorry) But your gonna be fine Jayme, as for your IP...hows things coming along with that? Did you do the water test I told you about?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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I did not do the water test, have not been driving the truck much but it still smokes like a freight train at idle and can bury a hybrid in black smoke at half throttle, did do a little work today though
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The quarry by me won't load a pickup truck any more. They check the registration on my dump truck and wont load it to more than the GVW on the reg says. Back when they would load pickups a buddy of mine went in with his 1/2 ton dodge with a toolbox like what you have... when he rolled on the scales they told him he wasnt legal even without a load of stone in the back!!
 
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