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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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Front end/Frame choices?

Hey guys i have a 66 f100 shortbed. Been searching and can't really get a straight answer and im sorry if it has been covered times before but which front ends can be swapped onto my truck to get rid of the i-beam suspension? Or is there certain swaps that are more common for these trucks? I like to lower clean look (no molding, badges, etc.) and the twin ibeam doesn't seem like the ideal suspension. Ooorrr does anyone know what other frames could be used with the same wheelbase, etc? newer f150? i havent had a chance to measure or anything and i wanna get a basic plan before i start tearing my truck down to the frame.. any help is appreciated
 
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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2003 and newer Crown Vic
 
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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03 and newer crown vic for suspension swap? i have seen that what about a whole frame swap?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 02:24 PM
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I heard the Dakota front suspension is quite the deal on these trucks plus u get to keep same bolt pattern at wheels.

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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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hmmm any specific years?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Im wondering if there is a frame swap.. pick up a wrecked car/truck whatever and swap my body over
 
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Like 87 to 94 Dakota as far as frame swaps all for trucks have I beams all up to 95 or 94 I've seen a Guy do like a lighting frame. Might work you'll have to Fab cab mounts.


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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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now we're getting a little expensive lol.. but it would be cool to do a lightning and have the motor and everything
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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Hell ya it would be bad *** maybe u can find a frame off a 96 and up f150 measure the width though.

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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Steve no longer manufactures the Dakota Kit Components.

He is thinking of reintroducing them.

Industrial Chassis : Industrial Chassis Inc.

Ever wonder why no pro shops are installing the 03 up panthers in vehicles?

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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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I've Seen a 71 F100 body on a 2008 F250 short bed frame, guy claimed he did not have to cut the frame except to mount bumpers. Of course he had to make radiator supports and body mounts though. The 71' body mounts the same as the 66'
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by garbz2
Steve no longer manufactures the Dakota Kit Components.

He is thinking of reintroducing them.

Industrial Chassis : Industrial Chassis Inc.

Ever wonder why no pro shops are installing the 03 up panthers in vehicles?

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That would be awesome if the Dakota kit came back that's what I want to do tomine.

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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by garbz2
Steve no longer manufactures the Dakota Kit Components.

He is thinking of reintroducing them.

Industrial Chassis : Industrial Chassis Inc.

Ever wonder why no pro shops are installing the 03 up panthers in vehicles?

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is there a particular reason? i did a lot of reading, and the only downside i saw discussed was that it could be a bit wide for some people's liking.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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I've Seen a 71 F100 body on a 2008 F250 short bed frame, guy claimed he did not have to cut the frame except to mount bumpers. Of course he had to make radiator supports and body mounts though. The 71' body mounts the same as the 66'
hmm.. interesting the only thing is im on a budget so its baby steps. finding a newer truck like that even totaled i would imagine it having quite the price tag. i measured a 2001 expedition. Same width but its a few inches longer.
 
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is there a particular reason? i did a lot of reading, and the only downside i saw discussed was that it could be a bit wide for some people's liking.
A) It is a cast aluminum structure,not forged. It is desgined to be cradled/supported by a full unitised sheet metal chassis structure that has integral/internal forged steel mount and tie points and has zero flex.

B) A ladder frame in no way is rigid enough to meet the factorys engineering for rigidity. Ladder frames flex and twist by design even with boxing plates.

C) When failure occurs it will happen suddenly as the lower cross casting and the spring perch part ways from the lower arm. Not fun in any circumstance.

D) Pickups are a bias of about 70/30 front to rear unladen. The CV is a 50/50 bias, the suspension's anti dive, caster and camber is for this bias. The loads incurred under a constant 70/30 bias are probally at the design limits of the components. So they are at the limits full time only stressing the components further. The pesky little thing called metal fatigue is in play here and we all know it is the number one concern when dealing with aluminum parts.

E) last but not least is the width and limited rim selection.

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