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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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the ones i have seen did have oil in them. not full be some in it. maybe i should look at getting cover for the filter. i do not need this to happen.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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the ones i have seen did have oil in them. not full be some in it. maybe i should look at getting cover for the filter. i do not need this to happen.
I'll bet there's some diesel in his intercooler. Not full, but some in it.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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The theory you guys have come up with so far seems plausible to me. Didn't Mugly pop a rod when it's 6637 got splashed with river water? (might have been more like submerged vs. a splash...)
So it may be possible for a fair amount of liquid to get past the filter element...
 
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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i think his was submerged and he got windows up date.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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There was plenty of fuel on the filter even after the truck stopped running. I think it was spraying fuel for a while because the whole heat sheid on the hood was saturated on the driver side. There was a lot of fuel under the hood. Probably 5 gallons or more. Do you suggest I run the truck to see if it starts getting more fuel to that injector or should i not run the truck.

When the try reved very high, I jumped out of it and was standing behind it so I couldnt see the tach. I would say it was pinned on the stopper though. Well over 3000 RPM
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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There was plenty of fuel on the filter even after the truck stopped running. I think it was spraying fuel for a while because the whole heat sheid on the hood was saturated on the driver side. There was a lot of fuel under the hood. Probably 5 gallons or more. Do you suggest I run the truck to see if it starts getting more fuel to that injector or should i not run the truck.

When the try reved very high, I jumped out of it and was standing behind it so I couldnt see the tach. I would say it was pinned on the stopper though. Well over 3000 RPM
That sucks.

I'd try starting it today just long enough to tell if it is still knocking. Could have fuel in a cylinder that was near hydrolock causing the knock. If that's the case it should have bled down overnight. I wouldn't let it run for long until you figure out for sure what is going on.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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Update this morning

I couldnt resist starting the truck this morning. I started it up, nothing unusual. The loud and obvious knock is gone. Now it is idling ruff although steady rpm. The stick vibrates like crazy and the stacks are blowing blueish white smoke. No a lot but enough to see. It seems to run good when I hit the gas. I cant tell if there is a faint knock coming from the engine or not but if there is it is very quiet. Any new suggestions on whats going on.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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I couldnt resist starting the truck this morning. I started it up, nothing unusual. The loud and obvious knock is gone. Now it is idling ruff although steady rpm. The stick vibrates like crazy and the stacks are blowing blueish white smoke. No a lot but enough to see. It seems to run good when I hit the gas. I cant tell if there is a faint knock coming from the engine or not but if there is it is very quiet. Any new suggestions on whats going on.

It will take you a few mile to purge the lines of air. Check your water bottle to make sure that there is no oil in it.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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It will take you a few mile to purge the lines of air. Check your water bottle to make sure that there is no oil in it.
What do you mean "Water Bottle"
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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What do you mean "Water Bottle"

the coolant bottle or tank
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Probably should change the oil, I'll bet it has some fuel in it, I'd send it in for wear metal analysis as well if it was mine.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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I took a video so you could hear the idle and see the smoke. Let me know what you think. Its been idling for 20 mins and no changes still blue, white, or grey smoke.

YouTube - ‪Stroke of the Stroker‬‏
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Keep an eye on your oil level. 'to me....' the truck sounds fine.... but it does look like you are burning some oil.

Just throwing this out there, maybe some bad o-rings on some injectors letting some oil by to be that is causing the darker smoke.



((Some guys pay good money to get their trucks to sound and smoke like that))
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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Have you got any signs of oil or fuel in the down pipe? With stacks you won't see anything dripping out a tailpipe like the rest of us would. Pulling and dumping the intercooler also sounds like a good idea just to be on the safe side.

It's hard to comment on the shake of the stick since we don't know what it was like before. It's possible you've just got air in the fuel rails, but I've seen several trucks that happened on and they didn't smoke like that. If the smoke started after the over rev, a compression test sounds like a good idea.

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Maybe we can test whether the 6637 passes fuel on a running engine, but I'll not volunteer my engine to be the test unit, I don't have any 6637 filters. Maybe yours? I'll pay for a gallon of diesel.

Box of beer on there being liquid diesel in the bottom of the intercooler.
You drink beer from a box? I always thought you might be a little strange

You've got to admit this leak had to squirt in a 1 in a million shot. Saturate the filter enough to cause it to drip, have the drip / fumes sucked in by the turbo while running, then run away. Since the 6637 doesn't have an internal mesh, you would think the paper filter would have collapsed and been sucked into the turbo (to the OP, you have checked and changed your filter, right?)

I'm not convinced there would be puddles of fuel in the CAC since I'm thinking it was the fumes off the saturated filter and most, if not all of the fuel would have been consumed during the over rev, but it would be wise to pull it and check.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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Bad news. I started the truck again tonight and the knock is back. Now it is pouring out white greyish smoke very thick. Looks like dp-tuners lope tune. Is it possible that my pcm is screwed. I did mention that my dp-tuner quit working and i think it might have affected my pcm
 
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