Lariat without NAV screen
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Lariat without NAV screen
Hey Folks, first post here. My wife and I have bought a new 29' 5th wheel, and are looking to replace the 97 F150 that we have now.
We found a nice 2011 F350 4x2 long bed Lariat w/ diesel plus the 3.31 rear end, that is already setup with the towing pkg, in the matching color as the 5er. The RV has a GVWR of a little over 10k, so this truck is more than enough. A 4x4 is too high for her, so going with the 2 wheel drive.
But this truck is missing the Nav screen, in it's place is a AM/FM/CD/MP3 player. What exactly am I missing without this? My wife's Mazada CX9 has one, with the nav and backup camera, personally, I could take or leave it.
Her nav system once had us go in a 15 mile circle, turning off the route we were on, only to return to the same intersection! I figured it was a Chinese hacker having fun with us. If the thing had not been built in, it would of been thrown out the window.
I understand that the new 2012s at first will not have these? If so, that would pretty much negate the advantage of special ordering a truck in that reguard.
How would a truck setup like this warn me about low DEF?
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John K.
We found a nice 2011 F350 4x2 long bed Lariat w/ diesel plus the 3.31 rear end, that is already setup with the towing pkg, in the matching color as the 5er. The RV has a GVWR of a little over 10k, so this truck is more than enough. A 4x4 is too high for her, so going with the 2 wheel drive.
But this truck is missing the Nav screen, in it's place is a AM/FM/CD/MP3 player. What exactly am I missing without this? My wife's Mazada CX9 has one, with the nav and backup camera, personally, I could take or leave it.
Her nav system once had us go in a 15 mile circle, turning off the route we were on, only to return to the same intersection! I figured it was a Chinese hacker having fun with us. If the thing had not been built in, it would of been thrown out the window.
I understand that the new 2012s at first will not have these? If so, that would pretty much negate the advantage of special ordering a truck in that reguard.
How would a truck setup like this warn me about low DEF?
Thanks
John K.
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In the information center which is between the gauges. It is like a miniature computer with many display options and features. It is also how you program the truck with what options you want turned off or on etc. BTW Welcome to FTE. 
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It's not missing the nav, it doesn't have it. My 09 F550 Lariat is hard loaded but no nav. I didn't want it. I use Garmins, and keep them on the upper left of the windshield where it is easy to see. My wifes 09 Fusion has factory nav and I hate it. Not user friendly. Nav is optional on a lariat, not standard. And they are currently not available at all, because of a Japanese parts shortage.
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+1 on the Garmins. I've used them for years and find that they are often times more accurate than the factory nav packages. Additionally, I find them to be easier to use and you have the advantage of moving them from vehicle to vehicle and placing them where you want them such as in an optimal place for ease of viewing instead of having to look down at the dash. Plus, they cost a lot less than the factory nav units.
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Thanks, guys. The first GPS I ever used was a Garmin in a renter car while on vacation. Worked great and for a change no arguments about getting loss.
I didn't think about the plus of transferring it to other vehicles (we also have a convertible VW Bug).
So the factory display is bells and whistles not really needed to tow a trailer? I would think the backup camera would be great in hooking up a TT, but useless with the 5th. wheel. As for all the programming stuff, I have that on my cell phone too, and never use it.
Going to test drive tonight
I didn't think about the plus of transferring it to other vehicles (we also have a convertible VW Bug).
So the factory display is bells and whistles not really needed to tow a trailer? I would think the backup camera would be great in hooking up a TT, but useless with the 5th. wheel. As for all the programming stuff, I have that on my cell phone too, and never use it.
Going to test drive tonight
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I'll even go so far as to say that having the backup camera appear in the rear view mirror is even better than on the nav screen. You're already used to using the mirror when you back up; looking down would be quite counter-intuitive.
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Well the truck doesn't have a backup camera, but does have the backup alarm sensor.
Good enough for me, so we bought it! Super 08 was right, I have a miniature screen behind the steering wheel, with all the display programs.
Good enough for me, so we bought it! Super 08 was right, I have a miniature screen behind the steering wheel, with all the display programs.
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OK, I am curious as hell about this, please do tell 
Don't fret the Nav. OEM Navs cost a lot to update. Better off buying a new Garmin with the latest gadgets. I travel a lot and instead of upgrading the maps, hell, I just buy a new GPS unit...or as my wife says, girlfriend.
Per the manual on the DEF...you did get a manual with your new truck right??? You are supposed to fill the DEF when you oil change your new beast. The onboard computer will inform you when your oil is spent.
Don't fret the Nav. OEM Navs cost a lot to update. Better off buying a new Garmin with the latest gadgets. I travel a lot and instead of upgrading the maps, hell, I just buy a new GPS unit...or as my wife says, girlfriend.
Per the manual on the DEF...you did get a manual with your new truck right??? You are supposed to fill the DEF when you oil change your new beast. The onboard computer will inform you when your oil is spent.
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OK, I am curious as hell about this, please do tell
Don't fret the Nav. OEM Navs cost a lot to update. Better off buying a new Garmin with the latest gadgets. I travel a lot and instead of upgrading the maps, hell, I just buy a new GPS unit...or as my wife says, girlfriend.
Per the manual on the DEF...you did get a manual with your new truck right??? You are supposed to fill the DEF when you oil change your new beast. The onboard computer will inform you when your oil is spent.
Don't fret the Nav. OEM Navs cost a lot to update. Better off buying a new Garmin with the latest gadgets. I travel a lot and instead of upgrading the maps, hell, I just buy a new GPS unit...or as my wife says, girlfriend.
Per the manual on the DEF...you did get a manual with your new truck right??? You are supposed to fill the DEF when you oil change your new beast. The onboard computer will inform you when your oil is spent.
The 5th wheel is an Open Range Roamer, their mid level line of RVs. They are a two tone light/dark gray. The truck is ingot silver w/ sterling gray accent. The RV dealer is 100 miles away up in Richmond Va., so when I say matching colors, it's with fingers crossed, since the two vehicles have yet to be seen side by side.
Open Range 2012 287RLS
Actually I'm not picking up the truck until today (Friday). Imagine I'll be hiding out in the driveway all weekend, nose stuck in the manual.
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You've done the same as my wife and I. We picked up our new truck on Tuesday and we are picking up our new fifth wheel on Monday morning. I wanted some time to get some miles on the truck before I picked up the trailer. The one we traded it had the same basic floor plan as the one you've just bought. I think you'll enjoy it, we had ours for a little over 4 years now and it is a very functional design. The location of the TV is viewable from just about any seat, even laying down on the couch with the pups at the end of a long day.
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If all goes well, our plan is to keep this one till the truck is paid for (5 years), then trade it in for a bigger unit.
My only other RV has been a TT, which was last used maybe ten years ago, when the kids were young.
I have real concerns about backing up the 5er, I know I will learn how eventually, but the learning curve is going to be painful (and hopefully not too expensive!).
What RV did you get?
My only other RV has been a TT, which was last used maybe ten years ago, when the kids were young.
I have real concerns about backing up the 5er, I know I will learn how eventually, but the learning curve is going to be painful (and hopefully not too expensive!).
What RV did you get?
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Backing up is really no different than any other trailer. I forget if you have a long box or not. If you do the only thing to watch for is don;t cut too sharp and crush the back corner of the cab with the trailer. They have sliding hitches (which are a bit of a pain) or what is called a sidewinder hitch that allows you to cut it 90 degrees. I used to have a sliding hitch, but after almost 20 years of towing I had never used the slider so this time I just got a standard hitch. As for our trailer I put a link below for you. We are really looking forward to picking it up. Only the first 11 pictures are of the trailer. There is a mess up on the website and the rest of the photos are of something else.
2011 Jayco Eagle Fifth Wheel 321RLTS for sale | Leduc, AB
2011 Jayco Eagle Fifth Wheel 321RLTS for sale | Leduc, AB