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The Marquis frame is LARGE, that is my biggest issue. It is too wide, too long, and it's all boxed in so it has a TON of metal in it. benefit: it is MASSIVELY strong.
that's what I figured about the chop top, but I don't think I've even seen one.
that's what I figured about the chop top, but I don't think I've even seen one.
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I think there's a reason you haven't seen a chopped hi-boy
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I didn't think the chop top would look right at that height, but I've never seen one so I can't really say. I don't want to make a full decision without at least seeing it.
My only real draw backs with the frame are width, length, weight, it's HUGE. On the other hand, it's walls are tall, wide, thick, and fully boxed, so I'm pretty sure strength won't be an issue.
My only real draw backs with the frame are width, length, weight, it's HUGE. On the other hand, it's walls are tall, wide, thick, and fully boxed, so I'm pretty sure strength won't be an issue.
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I measured the frame 4.5" tall, 2.25" wide.
Now that you mention it, I do understand that the body is a large part of the rigidity, and the engineers consider this, so a car frame wouldn't be made to be as strong as a truck frame. I wonder where this could come up as an issue for me. I don't plan on auto-x, just around town driving, burnouts, some 1/4 mile runs. I don't really expect traction out of the hole as I won't be dumping much money into the suspension/rear end.
Now that you mention it, I do understand that the body is a large part of the rigidity, and the engineers consider this, so a car frame wouldn't be made to be as strong as a truck frame. I wonder where this could come up as an issue for me. I don't plan on auto-x, just around town driving, burnouts, some 1/4 mile runs. I don't really expect traction out of the hole as I won't be dumping much money into the suspension/rear end.
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Thanks for the link, I've already stumbled across it, but hadn't stopped to read it yet. It's kind of nice to hear some of the stuff you said. I'm not brand loyal and had been thinking about running the s10 chassis with a northstar, I've been researching that setup for years and am dying to put it in something. If I do use a different frame that would be it. Being an original on a solid body I wonder about restoration and keeping another classic in one piece, however I don't think this is actually that rare or even worth much, so again, I'm still not sure.
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This morning I tried to bolt up some Ford car rims. They did not fit. The guy that brought them by told me my frame has F150/full size bronco lug pattern.
Does anybody know much about the old ford frames? Such as where I would find a VIN stamp or how to identify it to the title that it came with, or even just how to identify what kind of car it would belong to.
Were the Marquis and Grand Marquis different cars?
I was looking up engine info and I found out It does have D3VE -A2A heads which ARE the correct generation for what I thought this was.
Any help is appreciated, I am having a hard time finding much of any information on these cars/frames. TIA
Does anybody know much about the old ford frames? Such as where I would find a VIN stamp or how to identify it to the title that it came with, or even just how to identify what kind of car it would belong to.
Were the Marquis and Grand Marquis different cars?
I was looking up engine info and I found out It does have D3VE -A2A heads which ARE the correct generation for what I thought this was.
Any help is appreciated, I am having a hard time finding much of any information on these cars/frames. TIA
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This gives some basic info: Mercury Marquis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think if you want any real power or economy, serious mods will be needed to the 460, '78 was a bad year for most any Ford V8
I think if you want any real power or economy, serious mods will be needed to the 460, '78 was a bad year for most any Ford V8
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This gives some basic info: Mercury Marquis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think if you want any real power or economy, serious mods will be needed to the 460, '78 was a bad year for most any Ford V8
I think if you want any real power or economy, serious mods will be needed to the 460, '78 was a bad year for most any Ford V8
Here is a quote that I believe will help me, I'm reposting here in case anybody else searches and finds this thread.
From '73 to '78, Ford fullsize cars used a bit of an oddball lug pattern...5 x 5". Hence the reason Ranger wheels wouldn't fit, and neither will truck wheels.
Your choices for finding factory wheels at the local yard are limited. Aside from finding a fullsize Ford car, I THINK the Chevy Astro had a 5 X 5" pattern...but that's just heresay. Oh, yeah...the '72-'79 midsize Ford police cars used that pattern too, if you happen to run across one...
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Your choices for finding factory wheels at the local yard are limited. Aside from finding a fullsize Ford car, I THINK the Chevy Astro had a 5 X 5" pattern...but that's just heresay. Oh, yeah...the '72-'79 midsize Ford police cars used that pattern too, if you happen to run across one...
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This gives some basic info: Mercury Marquis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think if you want any real power or economy, serious mods will be needed to the 460, '78 was a bad year for most any Ford V8
I think if you want any real power or economy, serious mods will be needed to the 460, '78 was a bad year for most any Ford V8
Ok, had time to look it up and double check it.
"from 1972 forward 460's received retarded timing chain gear set's" "between 4 and 8 DEG off"
It seems they did the same for 351/400m engines too.
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Also if I remember right on these 460's the timing is retarded from the factory. Even if you line up the timing chain the way it was suppose to be the timing will be retarded. Ford just made them that way. It's best to use a aftermarket timing chain on the 460 that came that way.
Ok, had time to look it up and double check it.
"from 1972 forward 460's received retarded timing chain gear set's" "between 4 and 8 DEG off"
It seems they did the same for 351/400m engines too.
Ok, had time to look it up and double check it.
"from 1972 forward 460's received retarded timing chain gear set's" "between 4 and 8 DEG off"
It seems they did the same for 351/400m engines too.
(Yes i'm one of the few that uses the search function)
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My 460 is Seized.
I now realize this is one of the things I should have checked when picking it up, I didn't even think of it because I liked the guy and trusted he was telling the truth when he said he drove the donor car to his house before he started this and it was in perfect working order.
I don't know what will happen next, but due to the cost of machine work and a rebuild I can pretty much guarantee it won't involve this engine. Grrrrrrrrr
I now realize this is one of the things I should have checked when picking it up, I didn't even think of it because I liked the guy and trusted he was telling the truth when he said he drove the donor car to his house before he started this and it was in perfect working order.
I don't know what will happen next, but due to the cost of machine work and a rebuild I can pretty much guarantee it won't involve this engine. Grrrrrrrrr