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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Hey NB,
Do you know if Ford used different bellhousings on the C4 transmission during its production life? I have a shot at a good C4 out of an 87 mustang with a 5.0 Litre engine. Hoping it will mate to a 67-69 300 I-6, but not sure. And are the C6 and C4 transmissions the same length? Also trying to figure out if this possible swap from 360/C6 to 300/C4 will require a driveshaft modification. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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c4 as far as I know did come out with different bellhousings. A c6 belhousing will not unbolt it will either be for a big block or a small block. Somebody smarter than me may explain in better detail.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tmcalavy
I have a shot at a good C4 out of a 1987 Mustang with a 5.0 Liter engine.
No such thing as a C4 in any Mustang V8 after 1981. 1982 Mustang's with the 4.2L V8 (255 cid, all that was available) used a C5, which was also used in 1983's.

1984/89 5.0L Mustang's came with AOD.
Originally Posted by corytcline
c4 as far as I know did come out with different bellhousings.
There are 2 converter housings (bell housing: M/T) listed in the 1964/72 Ford truck parts catalog, 7 listed in the 1965/72 Ford car parts catalog, 10 listed in the 1973/79 Ford car parts catalog, 4 listed in the 1973/79 truck parts catalog.

After looking thru these catalogs, I didn't bother to look any further.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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c4's are quite popular with racers. so if one was transplanted into an 87 mustang its most likely been modified for drag racing/ high performance.
the shift points and firmness might not be ideal for someone cruising around in a 300i6 powered pickup. so if you buy it be sure to ask what has been done to it regarding modifications.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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The c4 will bolt to your 6 cylinder as will as a c5 and c6 as long as its trom a 289,302,351w or 351c.In 1980 they changed the 302 fly wheel balance from 28 oz to 50 oz.Fords most commonly made two flywheel sizes 157 or 161 tooth.You can buy the fly wheel to match.351w used 28 oz till they stopped making them.Not sure about the 300.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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Ford Changed from Type F transmission fluid to Mercon around 1980. Type F is getting harder to find. Make sure what fluid is in the tranny, it is not a good idea to mix the fluids.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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Ford Changed from Type F transmission fluid to Mercon in 1977. Type F is getting harder to find. Make sure what fluid is in the tranny, it is not a good idea to mix the fluids.
XT-1QDX .. Mercon 1977/ C4/C6.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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Thanks for the info...I just posted what I was told by the current owner, who sounds like a young hot rodder. Just wanted to know if there was different bellhousings so I can be sure it will bolt to the 300 I-6. It also comes with a 2000 stall torque converter, slip yoke/tailshaft and a small external fluid cooler. I plan on having it rebuilt to be fit for service behind the I-6...built for a truck in other words. Can't beat the price, unless it turns out the case is cracked or something. I'll know tomorrow when I go look at it. So I guess I'm sitting on a gold mine cause I have enough Type F to completely service the C6 in my truck now. Numberdummy must be cranky today...jumped right in with a dis, don't really appreciate that...being direct and factual is okay, but folks come to this forum and ask questions looking for help...not a crappy attitude.
 
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Old May 14, 2011 | 01:52 AM
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There are lots of converter housings as bill posted, but to answer your question, a '88 5.0 has the same bolt pattern as you 300.

I would look for a small block C6 though, thats what Ford put behind most (all?) 300s and it's a bit tougher. Cost to rebuild (should you choose too) is similar. It'd be a direct swap as far as your driveshaft/linkage (C6-C6 no brainer)

C4 is shorter overall, so you'd need a longer driveshaft.
 
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