Dipstick relocatation kit ?
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: HUDSON, FL
Dipstick relocatation kit ?
I have a 302 that was a front sump,but when i put the jag ifs in my 51 f1i had to go with a double sump pan.now the dipstick was (and still is) in the front timing cover & the front sump is very small.is there any kind of relocataion kit for this? someone told me that there might one for marineengines.I thought that you guys might know because there is a lot of knowlege on this site.i am sure that i am not the first guy to have this problem ( at least i hope not) thanks in advance. Bob
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From: springfield il
oh what the hades i'm gonna let this one fly ............. it is now called called the federal witness relocation program .......................... 
you may now throw objects at me ...........................
i had a early 70's 302 laying around here that had the tube in the left side of the pan . no idea what or where it came off of seriously . it was a motor i picked up for my 83 f150 4x4 .....................
i had a early 70's 302 laying around here that had the tube in the left side of the pan . no idea what or where it came off of seriously . it was a motor i picked up for my 83 f150 4x4 .....................
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From: Morgan Hill, CA
I have an 80's 302 in a 66 mustang. The dipstick goes into the side of the block. The dipstick has been the cause of many headaches. The stock tube broke off, so I added an aftermarket unit. So...I had to trim the dipstick per the limited set of instructions. When the stick is in deep enough to get an oil reading, the stick hits the crankshaft. So now, the dipstick stays in the trunk, and I had to buy a second one & cut it off short to fill the hole for everyday driving. If you get any reading at all from the timing cover mounted unit I'd keep it there.
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Hey Bob Speed Way has a rear sump pan with A dipper,I to need to find where they go in,maybe in the pan itself not sure in the pan I have it has
no place for a dip stick.I am going to look else were and maybe get some info.
no place for a dip stick.I am going to look else were and maybe get some info.
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From: Moore (or less), OK.
I bought a rear sump pan that has a hole in the side to install the dipstick in the the pan. The front location has to be closed off somehow.
If I hadn't found this pan I was going to cut a hole in one and use some Grey Marine-Tex to bond a tube and build my own dipstick by calibrating a used one.
Grey Marine-Tex is wonderful stuff. I once repaired a fuel tank pickup tube with it. It's a 2 part epoxy that's impervious to oil and gas.
If I hadn't found this pan I was going to cut a hole in one and use some Grey Marine-Tex to bond a tube and build my own dipstick by calibrating a used one.
Grey Marine-Tex is wonderful stuff. I once repaired a fuel tank pickup tube with it. It's a 2 part epoxy that's impervious to oil and gas.
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From: springfield il
why weld up the cover when you relocate it ? why not an interference fit plug tapped in with some epoxy like grizz is suggesting , or jb weld to fill in around it to cover the seam then smooth it and you'd never know it was there ....... the more i think about it i'm beginning to wonder if the pan i referred too wasn't right side tube as it was a rear sump . gave it to a freind in need of one to fit an engine swap he was doing ............. all i really recall is it wasn't in the timing cover for sure . go to the local farm and home type store and look in their wonderful array of fasteners , fittings etc. i'll bet you can find a plug . i took my flatties fuel pump rod down and came up with a nice brass one and a steel one that fit the hole just as snug as a bug in a rug to block it's hole off in the lifter valley ................ 
oh and they make a repo flathead oil dipstick tube pan boss { ours are riveted onto the pan } that could probably easily be adapted to any oil pan and riveted like the flathead or even welded up . food for thought ????? flathead jack , i think carpenter and someone else i can't recall has them .......................
oh and they make a repo flathead oil dipstick tube pan boss { ours are riveted onto the pan } that could probably easily be adapted to any oil pan and riveted like the flathead or even welded up . food for thought ????? flathead jack , i think carpenter and someone else i can't recall has them .......................
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I have a 302 pan i removed from a 81 van,rear sump. It's in the side of it and you can plug the hole in the timing cover with the same kind of plugs that are soft plugs in the side of the block water jackets,only a lot smaller. I think they are about 5/16 or 3/8 in. You should be able to get them at most any good parts store,napa,ect. I pick up a few different sizes and keep them on hand . I put a little sealer around them most of the time but if they fit tight like they should, they can be driven in dry. JIM 
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I have a 302 that was a front sump,but when i put the jag ifs in my 51 f1i had to go with a double sump pan.now the dipstick was (and still is) in the front timing cover & the front sump is very small.is there any kind of relocataion kit for this? someone told me that there might one for marineengines.I thought that you guys might know because there is a lot of knowlege on this site.i am sure that i am not the first guy to have this problem ( at least i hope not) thanks in advance. Bob
There are several styles of rear sump sbf pans. The most common is the Fox chassis (Mustang) unit, and those came both with and without a dip stick tube in the side. The early ones utilized a stick in the block, the later ones moved it to the pan. The kit that Ford offers, and is sold through many outlets for under $100, includes the correct stick, tube in the pan, special matching pickup tube, and the special main bolt for the special pickup. Ideally, that is the one you'll have, and you can plug the hole in the timing cover.
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