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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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What do you think? if so, is it better to have the filter before or after the pump?
I have both on an electric pump system, with the electric pump below tank level. I think the inline-6's are troublesome because of the long run to the pump, then again on flat V8's the pump is almost the high point of the engine. On the mid-fifties with the saddle tanks and outlet on top of the tank, a filter ahead of the pump might be a problem.

Best thing is to have a clean system! I don't see how you can clean up 50+ yr old tubing all the way, and then even if you did, it would start rusting again. New coated tubing or SS is the way to go IMO.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
On the mid-fifties with the saddle tanks and outlet on top of the tank, a filter ahead of the pump might be a problem.

Best thing is to have a clean system! I don't see how you can clean up 50+ yr old tubing all the way, and then even if you did, it would start rusting again. New coated tubing or SS is the way to go IMO.
So you are saying, for my '54 V-8 with the tank low and the outlet on top of the tank I do not need a filter between the tank and the pump, just one between the pump and the carb?

A new SS line from the tank to the pump is something I will plan on in the future.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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I don't believe in vapor-lock. In 10 years and approx 80,000 miles I have never had an instance of VL. I've driven as far south as Wichita, Denver and St Louis.
I agree..... Gasoline of today has far lower vapor pressure than the gasoline of yesteryear.........

I'm not saying it's impossible........just less likely.......
 
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 11:13 PM
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I also had the same problem with my '56. When I bought the truck, I drove it 150 miles home and it died 3 or 4 times! It had 2 fuel filters on it. One on the carb (an Auto Lite 2100 mounted on a '69 302), and an extra in line filter on the fuel line hose between the pump and the carb. That filter was an "element" type in a removalable glass housing, and it showed much rust and trash. Each time it died, I had to let the engine cool down and then open up the glass filter cartidge and tapped the filter element on the side of the payment. The engine would then start and run good for another 50 miles then I had to repeat the whole thing again. I tried to mess around with cleaning the tank myself with additives, but had little success so I finally drained and pulled the tank, (you wouldn't belive the pile of dirt and rust in that came out of thet thing!)took it to a radiator shop and had it re-lined. The guy at the raditor shop suggested replacing the fuel pump and fuel line too. I took his advice, and with a newly re-lined tank (about $100) and new fuel pump and lines, I have had no problems and could drive it almost anywhere. The only problem I have now is when it's warm outside and the engine is hot (normal temperature, but rises after the truck is shut off...which is normal) I think I have "perculation" that is I think the fuel gets boiled out of the carb bowl. It starts a little hard. But it will run fine!
 
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 11:32 PM
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hey coopdagook did you figured it out????
I took my fuel filter out and it was full of sand so i put a new one and i dont have a problem anymore.
I am going to have to replace the line and clean everything including my carb filter and tanks.
Thanks for posting this thread and hope you get yours fixed.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 12:25 AM
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Haven't had any problems so far, have not really got drive it much eather. Have not seen any trash yet but I think I am going to replace the line anyways. I have been wanting to redo the line from the pump to carb anyways. The tank was cleaned along with the radiator at a shop. So I think new lines will knock some things off the troubleshooting list. I also have had similar issues with starting after everything gets warm. If I hold the peddle down to the floor when restart it fires right up. It's like its flooded almost and needs clearing. I can see the fuel in the bowl so I know mine hasn't boiled out. My temp gauge does the samething by the way.
 
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