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In 2004, Car and Driver tested the Escape Hybrid and recorded a 0-60 time two seconds slower than the V6 model but 2 seconds faster than the standard 4-cyl. The 2009 redesign with the stronger V6 and 6-speed auto knocked another second of the 0-60 time with the V6 to the mid-7's. The hybrid is also a bit stronger but I haven't found a recent test report.
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Our 03 V6/2wd gets 21-32 mpg per 14 gal fill up on 65-70 mph 60 mile per day commute. Usually 320-325 per tank. How' that?... 
Before we purchased it, the wife wanted a RAV-4 & I kept harping that the mpg might be great, but I would feel safer (for both of us) with something that had a power reserve that a 4 just wouldn't have. There's been a few times when passing on a 2-lane, that the 6 definitely instilled a certain level of confidence that not having that extra 2 couldn't help but give.
The best case for the 6 came when we traveled to the Smokies. We had to pass through Chattanooga TN during 5 o'clock rush hour. 80 mph average with 2 people, luggage, 2 ice chests, groceries for a week, my traveling tools & other acruterments. Even though it had to drop out of OD & sometimes down shift to 2nd, I couldn't imagine trying to do it with a 4.
Will be traveling again this week, a little over 2K this time. Hope it holds up again.
Before we purchased it, the wife wanted a RAV-4 & I kept harping that the mpg might be great, but I would feel safer (for both of us) with something that had a power reserve that a 4 just wouldn't have. There's been a few times when passing on a 2-lane, that the 6 definitely instilled a certain level of confidence that not having that extra 2 couldn't help but give.
The best case for the 6 came when we traveled to the Smokies. We had to pass through Chattanooga TN during 5 o'clock rush hour. 80 mph average with 2 people, luggage, 2 ice chests, groceries for a week, my traveling tools & other acruterments. Even though it had to drop out of OD & sometimes down shift to 2nd, I couldn't imagine trying to do it with a 4.
Will be traveling again this week, a little over 2K this time. Hope it holds up again.
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Look, I don't make this stuff up and if you read what I posted originally I said "nearly the same". I am not in the habit of racing any of my vehicles but having owned them for some time I have a pretty good feel for how they perform. I don't consider Wiki to be a reliable source but here is a quote taken from there.
Those specs are for the early models ('05-'07) and from what limited research I did on the newer ones, the V6 is now 240HP and the hybrids have been upped as well. One site claimed the V6 0-60 was in the mid 8's and the hybrid was low 9's. Not bad either way.
What there is no comparison for though is the fuel efficiency of the V6 or the I4 versus the hybrid.....
Those specs are for the early models ('05-'07) and from what limited research I did on the newer ones, the V6 is now 240HP and the hybrids have been upped as well. One site claimed the V6 0-60 was in the mid 8's and the hybrid was low 9's. Not bad either way.
What there is no comparison for though is the fuel efficiency of the V6 or the I4 versus the hybrid.....
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In 2004, Car and Driver tested the Escape Hybrid and recorded a 0-60 time two seconds slower than the V6 model but 2 seconds faster than the standard 4-cyl. The 2009 redesign with the stronger V6 and 6-speed auto knocked another second of the 0-60 time with the V6 to the mid-7's. The hybrid is also a bit stronger but I haven't found a recent test report.
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How about one that insists that a dirty car gets noticable better milage?
I've also read where a '09 FE V6 owner gets 35mpg combined city/hwy without any special tricks, like it's common.
No proof just two opinions.
No different than taking your vehicle in for service, if they can't verify or prove what you suggested is happening, they won't do squat "most" of the time.
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Our 03 V6/2wd gets 21-32 mpg per 14 gal fill up on 65-70 mph 60 mile per day commute. Usually 320-325 per tank. How' that?...
Before we purchased it, the wife wanted a RAV-4 & I kept harping that the mpg might be great, but I would feel safer (for both of us) with something that had a power reserve that a 4 just wouldn't have. There's been a few times when passing on a 2-lane, that the 6 definitely instilled a certain level of confidence that not having that extra 2 couldn't help but give.
The best case for the 6 came when we traveled to the Smokies. We had to pass through Chattanooga TN during 5 o'clock rush hour. 80 mph average with 2 people, luggage, 2 ice chests, groceries for a week, my traveling tools & other acruterments. Even though it had to drop out of OD & sometimes down shift to 2nd, I couldn't imagine trying to do it with a 4.
Will be traveling again this week, a little over 2K this time. Hope it holds up again.
Before we purchased it, the wife wanted a RAV-4 & I kept harping that the mpg might be great, but I would feel safer (for both of us) with something that had a power reserve that a 4 just wouldn't have. There's been a few times when passing on a 2-lane, that the 6 definitely instilled a certain level of confidence that not having that extra 2 couldn't help but give.
The best case for the 6 came when we traveled to the Smokies. We had to pass through Chattanooga TN during 5 o'clock rush hour. 80 mph average with 2 people, luggage, 2 ice chests, groceries for a week, my traveling tools & other acruterments. Even though it had to drop out of OD & sometimes down shift to 2nd, I couldn't imagine trying to do it with a 4.
Will be traveling again this week, a little over 2K this time. Hope it holds up again.
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Having never driven a 4cyl manual or auto, I can't say how strong it is either. The 6 + auto will ****** the wheel out of your hands with torque steer if just "floored" at 55-60ish & you don't have a really good grip when done. Its easily one of the strongest V-6s I've ever driven.
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V6 FE=V6 Ford Escape
FEH=Ford Escape Hybrid
MM=Mercury Mariner
MMH=Mercury Mariner Hybrid
Very commonly used in most forums but I guess not in this one.
FEH=Ford Escape Hybrid
MM=Mercury Mariner
MMH=Mercury Mariner Hybrid
Very commonly used in most forums but I guess not in this one.
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My OPINION is that the performance of my 2005 and 2006 FEH are very good and more than adequate for the type of driving I do.
My OBSERVATIONS are that the performance of the 2005 and 2006 FEH are pretty similar to that of the 2004 Escape V6 that I owned based on the kind of driving that I generally do and the style of driving that I have.
Understand the difference?
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There is a huge difference between an observation and an opinion.
My OPINION is that the performance of my 2005 and 2006 FEH are very good and more than adequate for the type of driving I do.
My OBSERVATIONS are that the performance of the 2005 and 2006 FEH are pretty similar to that of the 2004 Escape V6 that I owned based on the kind of driving that I generally do and the style of driving that I have.
Understand the difference?
My OPINION is that the performance of my 2005 and 2006 FEH are very good and more than adequate for the type of driving I do.
My OBSERVATIONS are that the performance of the 2005 and 2006 FEH are pretty similar to that of the 2004 Escape V6 that I owned based on the kind of driving that I generally do and the style of driving that I have.
Understand the difference?
Observation- an act or instance of noticing or perceiving.
An opinion based on observations.
Regardless, above you said that a FEH has the same performance as a V6 which a Car&Driver test shows that not to be true. I actually was surprised it was as close as it was.
Towing capacity is lower with a FEH and the actual payload you should carry is lower as well.
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I know you like to argue about just about anything and want to stir the pot on everything but you can't change the fact that the hybrid vehicles offer a huge increase in fuel efficiency while still offering very respectable performance.
I took my 2005 on a 200 mile, speed limit round trip from my home to my base in Western Massachusetts this weekend plus another 50 miles of incidental driving while out there and got home with the Average Economy gauge saying 34.9 mpg. Let's see your V6 do that. $4 a gallon gas doesn't hurt nearly so much when I can go almost 500 miles on a 14 gallon fill-up.
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Wrong - I said nearly the same. And using just one criteria (0-60 time) doesn't tell the whole story. What about 0-30? Or 40-60? 60-80? And I already conceded that the hybrid Escape isn't going to tow a heavy trailer. But I wouldn't tow one with any Escape anyway.
I know you like to argue about just about anything and want to stir the pot on everything but you can't change the fact that the hybrid vehicles offer a huge increase in fuel efficiency while still offering very respectable performance.
I took my 2005 on a 200 mile, speed limit round trip from my home to my base in Western Massachusetts this weekend plus another 50 miles of incidental driving while out there and got home with the Average Economy gauge saying 34.9 mpg. Let's see your V6 do that. $4 a gallon gas doesn't hurt nearly so much when I can go almost 500 miles on a 14 gallon fill-up.
I know you like to argue about just about anything and want to stir the pot on everything but you can't change the fact that the hybrid vehicles offer a huge increase in fuel efficiency while still offering very respectable performance.
I took my 2005 on a 200 mile, speed limit round trip from my home to my base in Western Massachusetts this weekend plus another 50 miles of incidental driving while out there and got home with the Average Economy gauge saying 34.9 mpg. Let's see your V6 do that. $4 a gallon gas doesn't hurt nearly so much when I can go almost 500 miles on a 14 gallon fill-up.
Wrong! I don't like to argue but I just don't have to agree with every post from anyone. This thread was started comparing a I4 to a V6 and not to a Hybrid. Your going off on a tangent about Hybrid MPG now.
It's obvious why you left or don't post in GreenHybrid much or anymore. You can't stand anything to say to be questioned. There seems to be someone like that in every forum.