Notices
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L) Diesel Topics Only

Need help on fueling

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 12:38 PM
  #1  
94 smokin stroker's Avatar
94 smokin stroker
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: Salisbury NC
Question Need help on fueling

Ok so i have turned it up half a flat for like 3 months now but ive been thinking on it and i dont tow or carry any loads so i think that i could max out my ip and be safe with it with my pyro now in the truck what you guys think and would i notice a signifigant gain and how much smoke dont wana look like i just like to blow black thnks and also ive forget was it turn toward the rear of the truck or front to increase fueling
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 12:44 PM
  #2  
Phy's Avatar
Phy
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,709
Likes: 4
From: 8600 ft in Colo
It's like a welding tank regulator: Turn it clockwise to increase, counter-clockwise to decrease.
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 12:49 PM
  #3  
snaponprofile's Avatar
snaponprofile
Cargo Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,493
Likes: 3
From: NY
It all depends on what your pyro says, if you don't go over 1200* your engine will be fine. Maxing out the screw out will result in excess black smoke. There is no reason to max out a IP screw though unless you are boosting really high intercooled or something. Do you have a turbo??
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 01:16 PM
  #4  
94 smokin stroker's Avatar
94 smokin stroker
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: Salisbury NC
Yes i have a ats factory system and if i am on the screw which im sure i am i dont recall it being that tight
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 01:25 PM
  #5  
snaponprofile's Avatar
snaponprofile
Cargo Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,493
Likes: 3
From: NY
Having the fuel up 1 flat should be enough for that turbo, but if you turn it up more - start by another flat. Maxing out IP's gives them a shorter life.
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 01:30 PM
  #6  
94 smokin stroker's Avatar
94 smokin stroker
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: Salisbury NC
Ok thanks and i guess its just tight and i dont recall it and to be sure the hex size is 5/32 correct thnks
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 01:35 PM
  #7  
snaponprofile's Avatar
snaponprofile
Cargo Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,493
Likes: 3
From: NY
Yep, 5/32. 1/4 turn=1 flat.
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 01:44 PM
  #8  
94 smokin stroker's Avatar
94 smokin stroker
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: Salisbury NC
Ok thanks well now im gunna go play with it some
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 06:58 PM
  #9  
BlueOvalBud's Avatar
BlueOvalBud
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,389
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
Originally Posted by 94 smokin stroker
Ok so i have turned it up half a flat for like 3 months now but ive been thinking on it and i dont tow or carry any loads so i think that i could max out my ip and be safe with it with my pyro now in the truck what you guys think and would i notice a signifigant gain and how much smoke dont wana look like i just like to blow black thnks and also ive forget was it turn toward the rear of the truck or front to increase fueling
Being un-loaded, or heavily loaded doesn't matter. Your EGT's are your indicator.

Is it the factory Ford turbo made by ATS....or the aftermarket ATS kit?

If it's aftermarket, then I believe somebody should have the fuel screw turned up a bit already, to match the amount of air coming from the turbo.

And I remember form another thread you said you have put your EGT gauge on 1400 a couple times....

Where is your pyro probe located? In the exhaust manifold, in the up-pipe before the turbo, after the turbo?
From my reading, the general rule of thumb is to add 300 degrees to the reading if your pyro is located after the turbo, that will give you cylinder temperature, or at least close to it...
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 07:41 PM
  #10  
snaponprofile's Avatar
snaponprofile
Cargo Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,493
Likes: 3
From: NY
A factory turbo is a ATS turbo w/ the small DP, I believe that's what he has.
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 07:59 PM
  #11  
94 smokin stroker's Avatar
94 smokin stroker
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: Salisbury NC
My pyro is directly into number 8 i removed the manifold and tapped it straight into 8 to get a accurate as pssible reading
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 08:22 PM
  #12  
BlueOvalBud's Avatar
BlueOvalBud
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,389
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
Awesome

And you still get EGT's that high?

What's an average EGT for you driving normally?

That smashed downpipe is killing you man. Try to find an upgraded 3" unit or try to modify a Stroke downpipe to fit...
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:43 AM
  #13  
snaponprofile's Avatar
snaponprofile
Cargo Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,493
Likes: 3
From: NY
Banks has a downpipe upgrade for the factory system. Its the same size - just not smashed, I think coal has one on his. Call banks and they will tell you if they still have it and the $$ for it.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2011 | 03:30 PM
  #14  
tecgod13's Avatar
tecgod13
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,737
Likes: 179
From: Western Mass
Originally Posted by snaponprofile
Yep, 5/32. 1/4 turn=1 flat.
Allen wrenches are hexagonal -> 6 sided.
1 flat = 1/6 turn = 60°

1/4 turn = 90*° and would be called 1/4 turn, not one flat.

At least thats my interpretation as a math teacher....
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2011 | 06:21 PM
  #15  
snaponprofile's Avatar
snaponprofile
Cargo Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,493
Likes: 3
From: NY
Gosh dude, must you attack every post of mine, lol. From what I have read, I am sure 1 flat was 1/4 a turn. I could be wrong but that's what I concluded from reading.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE