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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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First egr, then edoc, doc, dpf, now scr, when will emissions be clean enough to satisfy our government? There has to be a stopping point where the exhaust just can't get any cleaner but it doesnt seem to be in sight. Pretty soon i will start breathing directly out of my tailpipe because its cleaner than the air in the atmosphere. All this new technology within such a short period of time is making it impossible for the techs to understand these engines. Do you guys think the technology in the 6.7 will be sufficient enough to last us at least a few years?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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considering most americans still view diesel engines as if they were looking through a time warp to the 80's when diesel cars and trucks would blow black smoke all over the road we're probably not near the end of the emissions. Also with the high prices of oil right now, the demand for lower cost higher efficency engines has gone up, however the U.S. has abandoned all attempts to bring a small diesel in a car or even a small pickup here. This is probably reltated to the fact that the gov. taxes diesel fuel alot more and also the publics skewed view of diesel engines.

The other thing that gets me is the government funding of ethanol... it makes no sence... raises food prices, costs more to produce, is less efficent... i mean what are they doing there?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Nothing the government does makes sense. I dont know what I will do after my 6.0, anything newer than it is impossible to work on in your own garage
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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i hear you there, im currently running an '88 f250 with a 351 gasser, but eventually i plan on building a mid 90's 7.3L and just rebuilding it till i die.

I wrote an report about a year ago about diesel emissions if anyone is intrested...

Diesel: Fuel of the Future?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian123
Nothing the government does makes sense. I dont know what I will do after my 6.0, anything newer than it is impossible to work on in your own garage
Guys said the same thing about the 7.3 before cause the 6.0 is so tight under the hood. If I had the tools and the time, I would wrench on my own 6.7 if I had one AFTER the warranty is up. Aside from a few new electronics it is still a diesel engine under there
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rollerstud98
Guys said the same thing about the 7.3 before cause the 6.0 is so tight under the hood. If I had the tools and the time, I would wrench on my own 6.7 if I had one AFTER the warranty is up. Aside from a few new electronics it is still a diesel engine under there
I was refering more to the 6.4 where an oil change is about the only thing you can do without having to remove the cab
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IHpuller450
considering most americans still view diesel engines as if they were looking through a time warp to the 80's when diesel cars and trucks would blow black smoke all over the road we're probably not near the end of the emissions. Also with the high prices of oil right now, the demand for lower cost higher efficency engines has gone up, however the U.S. has abandoned all attempts to bring a small diesel in a car or even a small pickup here. This is probably reltated to the fact that the gov. taxes diesel fuel alot more and also the publics skewed view of diesel engines.

The other thing that gets me is the government funding of ethanol... it makes no sence... raises food prices, costs more to produce, is less efficent... i mean what are they doing there?
do you think the US GOV'T would admit they were wrong about ENTHNOL?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 11:21 PM
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there was video years ago. showed 2 air testers, 1 going into engine and other in tailpipe. air was cleaner coming out, seem to remember byline was that car owner was about to fail smog test when operator realized probe fell out ot tailpipe, replaced probe and car passed test. too many computers, have lost link to it.
 
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there was video years ago. showed 2 air testers, 1 going into engine and other in tailpipe. air was cleaner coming out, seem to remember byline was that car owner was about to fail smog test when operator realized probe fell out ot tailpipe, replaced probe and car passed test. too many computers, have lost link to it.
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All this new technology for cleaner burning diesels but the mileage drops from 19 to 12... how can that be cleaner? That fuel has got to go somewhere.
 
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be happy you arent' in CA... no where worse than here! dirtbikes, trucks, lawn equipment... can hardly buy anything anymore...
 
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You can do all repairs with the cab on if need for the 6.4. But I am in total agreement here. I hope that we are at the stopping point now for a period of time. Let the technology mature and maybe it will get better.

With the gas motor's, remember the late 70's/early 80's. It was a jungle under there.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RCKYMTN-PSD
All this new technology for cleaner burning diesels but the mileage drops from 19 to 12... how can that be cleaner? That fuel has got to go somewhere.
The fuel that isnt burned in the combustion process is used to burn off the soot particles in the DPF. Unless you have an Adblue system.

My wifes little VW TDI Jetta wagen has an exhaust system that costs almost as much as as a new motor! Every 600 hundred miles it steals fuel and injects it straight into the DPF to help burn off the accumulated soot from diesel exhaust. That fuel doesn't power the car!!
 
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