Need some help with hutch mod please
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Need some help with hutch mod please
I am in the middle of my project .I have dropped the tank and removed the sending unit. When I pulled it up the foot was not attached.I found it at the end of the tank with some other small parts. 2 questions where do I get the foot and how do I figure the height dimension? My truck is a 2000 f350 srw long bed thanks Ron
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It is not required since you are doing the Hutch mod. But if you have it, go ahead and put it in, or take it back.
To set the height, you can measure from the bottom of the tank to the flat where the sender assy sits (on top of the tank) You can then set the dimension based off of that. You will want to make it a hair shorter just to make sure it is not sitting hard on the bottom. If the tank is on a hard surface, the bottom will relax a bit, once installed and not supported, so you will probably be ok.
To set the height, you can measure from the bottom of the tank to the flat where the sender assy sits (on top of the tank) You can then set the dimension based off of that. You will want to make it a hair shorter just to make sure it is not sitting hard on the bottom. If the tank is on a hard surface, the bottom will relax a bit, once installed and not supported, so you will probably be ok.
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I bought the kit from ITP and it used the stock pick up (foot) and screen. As long as it is about 1/4 '' from the bottom you should be good to go. I also added a worm type hose clamp at the top of the foot to make sure it didn't go anywhere. Overkill probably... Out of all the mods I've ever done to the money pit, this one gave me the best bang for the buck. The Ford engineer who came up with the stock design should be run out of town on a rail.
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Take it back.
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I just finished it took me 7 hours. I did it in my driveway by myself. My truck had a protective shield made out of plastic that went around the tank and it was a booger. Setting the height took some time as well. The retainer ring did not want to go back on. I am glad I did it, but it is alot of work. I think the foot basically was on the bottom of the tank.I hope that is ok .Thanks for the input Ron
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I am getting ready to do the huch mod to my e99 with kit from ITP with filter and lift pump/ carter. And what I would like to know what is the pro's and con's with the stock foot with or without ? And if I go without screen in foot or no foot am I going to need to add another filter before lift pump? Or can or should I NOT add another filter.
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I am getting ready to do the huch mod to my e99 with kit from ITP with filter and lift pump/ carter. And what I would like to know what is the pro's and con's with the stock foot with or without ? And if I go without screen in foot or no foot am I going to need to add another filter before lift pump? Or can or should I NOT add another filter.
Make sure your tank is almost empty. I filled up two five gallon containers of fuel to put in the tank when I got it back up. With any weight in the tank it really makes it a bear to get back in. My fill and vent hoses did not fare well when I removed them so be careful removing them or if yours are in bad shape get a couple of new ones before you start....
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Bad Dog , Why are you installing the lift pump. It is not needed and has caused problems for a few. I did mine over a year ago with the small see through filters form NAPA with no problems.
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X2 on the lift pump...I have my fuel pressure regulator set at 65 psi and it does not move..at all...ever. I'm using itp's regulated return and it is rock solid. With the stock set up it would fluctuate 10 psi with throttle demand. I wouldn't think you need the lift pump.
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I am going to the lift pump because I have heard of a few guys that have eaten or had a stock pumps burn up. I can't afford an airdog or fass system so I am going with a carter for now. Down the road I am going with Airtex pumps. That and with a good lift pump I can run a 2 mircon filter. I might not need too but I want to. http://www.guzzle7pt3.com/pump.php
And I use to run a 2.3 turbo coupe back in the 90's and had found that running a good lift pump saved on my high pressure pump. On that one I ran a high pressure pump with tank mod and eat 2 pumps went back to stock set up with airtex lift pump and airtex high pressure pump and ran them pumps for 10 yrs.
Also as I have talked to Airtex on the 7.3 their high pressure pump is a 80 psi at 47 gph without a lift pump. With a lift pump he said he had to look into it but it would increase the gph by how much I am waiting to see.
And I use to run a 2.3 turbo coupe back in the 90's and had found that running a good lift pump saved on my high pressure pump. On that one I ran a high pressure pump with tank mod and eat 2 pumps went back to stock set up with airtex lift pump and airtex high pressure pump and ran them pumps for 10 yrs.
Also as I have talked to Airtex on the 7.3 their high pressure pump is a 80 psi at 47 gph without a lift pump. With a lift pump he said he had to look into it but it would increase the gph by how much I am waiting to see.
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I am going to the lift pump because I have heard of a few guys that have eaten or had a stock pumps burn up. I can't afford an airdog or fass system so I am going with a carter for now. Down the road I am going with Airtex pumps. That and with a good lift pump I can run a 2 mircon filter. I might not need too but I want to. Welcome to guzzle's Helper/Lift pump Web Page
And I use to run a 2.3 turbo coupe back in the 90's and had found that running a good lift pump saved on my high pressure pump. On that one I ran a high pressure pump with tank mod and eat 2 pumps went back to stock set up with airtex lift pump and airtex high pressure pump and ran them pumps for 10 yrs.
Also as I have talked to Airtex on the 7.3 their high pressure pump is a 80 psi at 47 gph without a lift pump. With a lift pump he said he had to look into it but it would increase the gph by how much I am waiting to see.
And I use to run a 2.3 turbo coupe back in the 90's and had found that running a good lift pump saved on my high pressure pump. On that one I ran a high pressure pump with tank mod and eat 2 pumps went back to stock set up with airtex lift pump and airtex high pressure pump and ran them pumps for 10 yrs.
Also as I have talked to Airtex on the 7.3 their high pressure pump is a 80 psi at 47 gph without a lift pump. With a lift pump he said he had to look into it but it would increase the gph by how much I am waiting to see.
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From: Gary,Indiana
So jetdoc is running 65psi but at what gph? I would like to know for sure what the stock pumps gph are.
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Very true. from the info I have been getting is stock pressure pump is anywhere between 45 to 65 psi and I getting #'s between 40 to 60 gph. that is why I called airtex. And I was shocked that it was only 47gph. Because the lift pump I am going to use is 72 gph at 4 to 6 psi.
So jetdoc is running 65psi but at what gph? I would like to know for sure what the stock pumps gph are.
So jetdoc is running 65psi but at what gph? I would like to know for sure what the stock pumps gph are.