1986 351w 4bbl - timing mystery
pedant
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The timing marks are on the damper, you read off the edge, or end, of the 'pointer'.
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Tuned
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Timing marks
The manual shows the timing template with a bunch of vvvvvvvvv indentations, I've seen them before,but its been a long time since I've timed a vehicle...
Mine definitely don't appear that way, must have been busted off in the past, all I have is the upper end of it..
Mine definitely don't appear that way, must have been busted off in the past, all I have is the upper end of it..
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Tuned
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Timing marks
I see, thank you for that picture, yes-that's what I see. But, using #1 cylinder, I get blinking light but the harm. balancer groove is nowhere to be seen...Using #4 cyl, I get about 8 degrees BTDC but that means nothing because apptly I have a spun HB...Oh well.
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The "groove" in the balancer is not what you time by, you have to use little marks on the skinny side of the balancer. The only way to use the "groove" is to use a magnetic pickup timing set, which I have not seen one of those in years. It would go in the small hole in the other end of the pointer bracket.
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pedant
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You can see right across the end the word "TIME"
The correct Ford part number for the 11:00 timing pointer is F1TZ-6023-A
Since his damper is ready to come apart anyhow, the kit #M-6316-K351 contains both the E8TZ-B damper and F1TZ-A pointer.
Obsolete, but not out of stock. Both these numbers should come up on PartsGuyED's website.
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The correct Ford part number for the 11:00 timing pointer is F1TZ-6023-A
Since his damper is ready to come apart anyhow, the kit #M-6316-K351 contains both the E8TZ-B damper and F1TZ-A pointer.
Obsolete, but not out of stock. Both these numbers should come up on PartsGuyED's website.
He may be down, but he's not out. I appreciate the generous discount he offers FTE members.
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Tuned
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Wait just a darn minute.
I thought the groove was what you used. No? So what I needsa do is find these timing marks as in the picture on the balancer and THEN determine if the thing has slipped.
Let's START there. Sorry. I thought sure it was the groove you used and then from my one time long ago experience with a chevy 350, I believe the timing template did look like VVVVVVV. Anyway, I'll post back.
I thought the groove was what you used. No? So what I needsa do is find these timing marks as in the picture on the balancer and THEN determine if the thing has slipped.
Let's START there. Sorry. I thought sure it was the groove you used and then from my one time long ago experience with a chevy 350, I believe the timing template did look like VVVVVVV. Anyway, I'll post back.
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Put chalk or "white out" over the marks and then wipe it off so that it stays in the embossed marks.
Lighter colors show up better under the strobe.
I like to use a bit of bright nail polish to highlight the mark I need (8*, 10*, whatever..)
Lighter colors show up better under the strobe.
I like to use a bit of bright nail polish to highlight the mark I need (8*, 10*, whatever..)
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