I know some of you have really big fifth wheels and are on the road a bunch.

I ran across this truck a couple of weeks ago at a small dealer in Kernersville, NC.

It is legit and really only has 21k miles. It appears to be in great shape (I did not road test) the only known problem is the passenger side front air ride back is shot (Dry rot).

They have dropped the asking price to 34k but the salesman said they would take less.

It has the DT530e. I did get several pages of the International build sheet and can answer some chassis questions if anyone is interested.

I really wanted to buy it myself but cannot justify the cost and the cost of the divorce.

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Try this (copy-n-paste into your browser):

 

Sorry guys, I have tried a couple of times to include a link to the truck.

If you are interested google Auto Choice Select llc. Kernersville, NC.

Scroll through the inventory until you see the International 4700.

 

Okay, the issue with this thread should be resolved now.

Props to fellow moderator Chris (ctubutis) for fixing it for us.

 

No prob!

The bill will be in the mail.....

 

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This should work.

[ Moderator's Note: No, it didn't work, that URL tickles a bug in the forum software so it was removed. -ct 27-feb-11]

Nice rig. See allot of these around the southwest in the winter time.

Dry rot on one air bag means the rest are about to go as well. I would look into replacement cost before that purchase. And take a good look at the tires. If they are over 5 years old, they would need to be replaced.</style>

 

Okay folks, Chris has fixed this thread again.

For some reason when that link is posted in the thread, it sends the software into a tailspin and locks the thread.

So please.....no one post the link to the vehicle in this thread. If it happens again, I'll just have to lock the thread after we fix it or delete it completely.

Thanks for your understanding and thanks to Chris for fixing it again.

 

Unfortunately North Carolina has made it very unfriendly to even think about owning a vehicle such as this for recreational use. I've had two toter-homes in the past before they started changing the laws on these larger vehicles. If it has a fifth wheel(regardless of type) it is a truck/tractor in N.C. Now to top that off anything over a 1-ton truck cannot be put on a personal(non commercial) insurance policy(recreation or not). My insurance agent pulled some strings on my F-450 to get it insured as a F-359 for a personal policy(recreation use only).

Here is a link to a PowerPoint presentation pertaining to N.C. Motor sports Laws. You will see that a lot of this pertains to the R.V. industry as far as truck licensing and classification as well. Too many grey areas to make it worth it unless you have deep pockets. It's all about the money in the name of Safety! Hit "click here" to start the presentation.

NC Department of Crime Control and Public Safety

 

[quote=FordxFour;10030571] Now to top that off anything over a 1-ton truck cannot be put on a personal(non commercial) insurance policy(recreation or not). My insurance agent pulled some strings on my F-450 to get it insured as a F-359 for a personal policy(recreation use only).

Not trying to be argumentative... My 550 is Insured through Progressive as an RV (non-commercial) personal use policy.

I called Progressive and asked about insurance for the International and they stated it would be the same type of policy as I currently had.

I went through the .ppt you enclosed, a fifth wheel hitch is discussed and clearly labeled as you stated. What if it had a goose neck hitch?

I do agree that NC has made it difficult and expensive to own one of these trucks.

We know a NC motor enforcement officer. I asked him about these trucks, in practice if it is towing an RV and does not appear to be involved with commercial activity they leave them alone.

 

Don't worry, I'm certainly not looking at it as you being argumentative. Discussions like this is how we learn things. Just sharing my experiences.

It seems that they could draw a black definitive line between commercial and personal. It's just ridiculous to jump through all these hoops just by trying do do the right thing and stay within the law.

Keep in mind that registering a truck as an rv and insuring it as an rv are entirely two different things. To be registered as an rv it must meet certain criteria in the living quarters. Now the problem comes when you try to insure a truck as an rv. It used to be quite easy.

I wasn't really wanting to insure vehicles as rv's due to the restrictions(must tow only factory living quarters), I just wanted to insure them on a private personal policy.

Like I said, too many grey areas. Don't even get me started about DOT. I stopped at the Weigh Station(toter-home/no trailer) at one end of the state only to be told not to stop there anymore. Then when I passed the next one, I look in the mirror to see three DOT cars running me down to stop me. I had to turn around and cross the scales. It's pitiful, ten officers and ten different answers. I have no problem abiding by the law, just know the law yourself and tell me!

Be careful, as I found out. There are many restrictions insuring a rv tow vehicle as part of an rv unit, even Progressive. I called them today and confirmed this. It seems that you can only tow a factory living quarters(travel trailer/fifth wheel). I was also told that I could not drive the tow vehicle detached at any time. Not even to the store for supplies, nor to work, kids to school etc. Below is a complaint to rv america about Progressive and a tow vehicle as an rv.

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I too was very impressed with the service and attention from RV America, and felt that it was sincere. I took out the insurance on a 34ft 2000 Montana 5th wheel and a 2002 Ford F250 as the tow vehicle. Everything went until I requested a minor change from Progressive. When they "discovered" that I actually unhitched the tow vehicle from the trailer, they alleged that they could no longer provide coverage. According to Progressive, the vehicle could ONLY be used to tow and I was not covered if I unhitched it even to go to the store to get RV supplies or any other items. They claimed that nobody unhitched their tow vehicles. So don’t get mislead and have a claim as it may be denied. They unilaterally canceled my policy, but in the meantime I had deduced that I no longer wanted to have coverage from Progressive and when RV America was approached about the situation, they were unable volunteer any solution. Caveat Emptor aka Buyer Beware!

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All I can say is that what is working for you is to leave it as is and don't rock the boat. What I'm doing for now is working I just wish it was easier. I even thought about getting a F-350 crewcab with a title and swapping it onto the F-450 chassis...lol.

Very interesting, maybe someone else can chime in with other solutions and/or experiences.