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Towing Capacity

Can anyone point me in the right direction or post what the FORD FACTORY towing (fifth wheel) is for the 6.4 and 6.0 engines? F350 club 4x4.

I am looking at getting back into a Ford but am looking to tow a heavy 5th wheel and I have explored the new truck ratings but am having a hard time finding the older (used) ones for any of the manufacturers, just alot of mine will tow ... I want to be within factory specs because I will be towing all over the country and through Canada to Alaska.

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Depends on too many things to just answer your question. Need to know tranny, engine and rear ratio.
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Here's a link to the Ford Fleet site and the trailer towing guides. They go back to 2002 so you should be able to find exactly what you're looking for.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...ng/default.asp

For ratings on the 6.0, you'll need to look at the 2003-2007 towing guides and for the 6.4, look at the 2008-2010.
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One thing I found out in doing my research is to first get the truck on the scales to see how much each axle and then the total wt is. CAT scales is only 9 bucks the last time I did it.

Needs to be as fully loaded as you would normal out fit it. Passenger/fuel/tools, whole nine yards. If you can do this I can ball park it since mine is a 6.4 F250 Crew CAB 4x4

Front: 5100 lbs
Rear: 3160
total: 8260

5 adults and full of fuel.
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Here's a link to the Ford Fleet site and the trailer towing guides. They go back to 2002 so you should be able to find exactly what you're looking for.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...ng/default.asp

For ratings on the 6.0, you'll need to look at the 2003-2007 towing guides and for the 6.4, look at the 2008-2010.
that is exactly what I was looking for THANKS

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One thing I found out in doing my research is to first get the truck on the scales to see how much each axle and then the total wt is. CAT scales is only 9 bucks the last time I did it.
Still researching which truck to get. New vs Used. Great thought though if i already had the truck.

Looks like new has the best ratings... Darn
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Those trucks will tow anything you put behind 'em.

The problem comes when stoping
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I am restoring a 1973 F-350 Camper Special with a new 460 engine and 3.73 gears and C-6 transmission. I plan to use it for towing a 5th wheel or Travel trailer. The charts I have been able to find just don't go back that far. But I am assuming that I can tow just about anything as John says. But is there a formula to use. I think the only number I know is the GVR which is 10000 lbs.
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Yeah I am with ya, I know my current rig will tow anything to but I am concerned with being within Manufacturers ratings because I will be full time RVing and don't want DOT or more importantly my insurance company any reasons to give me grief.
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GVWR - Curb Wt. - Passengers - Cargo = Allowed Tongue Weight

Allowed Tongue Weight / .2 = Max. Trailer weight
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I am restoring a 1973 F-350 Camper Special with a new 460 engine and 3.73 gears and C-6 transmission. I plan to use it for towing a 5th wheel or Travel trailer. The charts I have been able to find just don't go back that far. But I am assuming that I can tow just about anything as John says. But is there a formula to use. I think the only number I know is the GVR which is 10000 lbs.
On these older Fords, it is hard to pin down the numbers as ther were not in the owners manuals. One place that I have found them to be at is in teh orgional sales brochure.

For example, on my 1970 C600, it lists a GCWR of 32k, regardless of which payload package the truck has.

I have noted this same information in other Ford brochures of the time as well.

Good luck, David
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GVWR - Curb Wt. - Passengers - Cargo = Allowed Tongue Weight

Allowed Tongue Weight / .2 = Max. Trailer weight
Texas, I am trying to figure this one out? I am really pulling a mind blank here.

I see the curb weight, lets figure 5500 lbs for my 1990 F250HD 7.5/E4OD, passengers 300lbs and cargo at say 200 lbs. That adds up to 6000 lbs. Take the GVW at 8600 lbs, subtract the 6000 lbs and you end up with 2600 lbs allowable tongue weight -

Now taking the 2600 / .2 = 13000 lbs for a maximum trailer weight.

What Have I done wrong here, as Ford only rates this truck at a GCWR of 15,000 lbs with a 3.55 ratio for a maximum legal trailer weight of 9,000 lbs, and Ford rates the same truck at 18,000 with a 4.10 ratio for a maximum legal trailer weight of 12,000, much closer to the 13k figure I came up with the calculations, but still legaly overloaded.

I also not sure that with 2600 lbs on the rear end that I woud not be exceding the RAWR ??? Is that needed in the calculation?

Also, since Ford rates the same GVW truck at different GCWR with different rear axle ratios, how is this accounted for?

Please feel free to straighten me out on this, I am definatly confused, and would like to understand this formula a bit better!

Thank you, David

Please feel free to straighten me out on this,
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If the GCVWR is not posted on the door, it isn't set.

You will notice that there is no GCVWR on the plate on your B pillar... only a GVWR.

in my experience, if you can break the RAWR without breaking the GVWR you have a very interesting weight distribution. Even plow trucks can't normally do this as they are designed to plow or tow, not both.

The GVWR is the number that matters most. The xAWRs are worth paying attention to, but if you sit and do the math, you will likely find that the sum of the axle ratings is more than the GVWR, and the front axle will be about 5-700# below the rating when empty while the rear axle will be very light compared to the rating when empty.

Since trailers this heavy have their own brakes, the pickup is burdened with stopping itself and any of the trailer that it carries, but not the weight that remains on the trailer. Safe tongue weight for a 5th wheel type trailer is 20-25% of the trailer weight.
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