What did you pay for your truck?
#16
#17
This is why I bought my 2010 last October. Stickered for $47,xxx, got it for $39,xxx. The dealer showed me the invoice, but I know that's a bunch of crap. With all the incentives and manufacture discounts and such, who knows how good a deal we are getting. I'm sure the dealers are making plenty on these trucks.
IMHO, if one can get a truck for 18% + below MSRP then you got a very good deal. A deal such as this forces the dealer to give up most of his profit and uses the factory incentives as well.
In my area, Ford has extended it's President day sale till the end of the month. They are offering up to 6K in factory incentives plus whatever you can swing on your own.
This is once again proof that trucks and SUV's are Ford's bread and butter.
#18
#19
I don't haggle
I just do research and know what I'm paying for. Ordered through Costco's Auto Buying Program. 2011 F150 Platinum 4X4 6.5ft Ecoboost with every option available. MSRP was $53,330, Invoice Price $47,818, Edmunds TMV $48,233 (after incentives and rebates), and I paid $47,486 (with DOC fee) and, best of all, I never set foot in a dealership. I called the dealer with with what I wanted, they faxed me the order confirmation, I mailed them a check, they delivered me a truck. I'm sure it can be done cheaper but I doubt it can be done much easier. I don't mind them making some profit either, I prefer their business to thrive and Ford to keep making the trucks I love to drive. Now excuse me while I go record a few more CD's onto the trucks hard drive.
#20
#21
While I totally agree, lets not forget that profit is what keeps them alive. Having said that, I hate to put one more penny into the dealer's hands than necessary and I will haggle till the cows come home. Well not anymore, I have X-plan now.
IMHO, if one can get a truck for 18% + below MSRP then you got a very good deal. A deal such as this forces the dealer to give up most of his profit and uses the factory incentives as well.
In my area, Ford has extended it's President day sale till the end of the month. They are offering up to 6K in factory incentives plus whatever you can swing on your own.
This is once again proof that trucks and SUV's are Ford's bread and butter.
IMHO, if one can get a truck for 18% + below MSRP then you got a very good deal. A deal such as this forces the dealer to give up most of his profit and uses the factory incentives as well.
In my area, Ford has extended it's President day sale till the end of the month. They are offering up to 6K in factory incentives plus whatever you can swing on your own.
This is once again proof that trucks and SUV's are Ford's bread and butter.
#22
In general, a fair profit for the dealership and a fair deal for the customer CAN be done IF both sides are willing to negotiate fairly. I'm not asking for the world, just don't try to screw me and we'll get along just fine (and I'll happily send plenty of referrals over too!).
#23
#24
Whenever I buy a vehicle, I print up whole sale and retail of the vehicle I want via NADA ( through work), and Edmunds and KBB. And then trade in value for my trade. This has helped me negotiate with the sales manager with I believe good results. I don't like to haggle, I like to negotiate in a positive way with out being rude. An educated consumer should come with some basic around about idea of vehicle cost and not make unrealistic demands to the salesman. I like the dealer I buy from because they have been fair on trade in and new vehicle cost without much negotiation. That has kept my wife and I coming back. I guess being prepared as best as we can before the sale is all we can do, I just can't help but feel as though I could have gotten a better deal, but that is no disrespect to salesmen and women at the dealer I deal with.
#27
Here's a hypothetical truck, 3.7 Super Cab, Sat Radio, Limited Slip, Tow Pkg, Custom Pkg, Convenience Pkg, XLT Plus Pkg, Rear Camera, Keypad Entry.
MSRP $34,115
XLT Conv & Tow Discout -$750
TOTAL MSRP $33,365
Invoice: $30,910
A Plan: $29,655.06
D Plan: $29,755.06
X Plan: 31,061.42
Current Incentives - $4,500
Net w/ Doc Fees $26,661
The way I see it, the dealer made hold back of $972, $150 over invoice and got a $100 Doc fee. Total for a day and a half's work, driving across town for a dealer trade, a $70 tank of gas, plus running the business is about $1,200.
How much can a dealer cut into that?
#28
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Everything you laid out makes sense to me and the other MSRP to actual costs posted above. Like you and others, wondering about the 41,789 / 27,639 breakdown. The MSRP for the FX4 I've on order is $43,330, not sure yet what the final line will be once it comes in - pending which incentive plan I opt for, but figure it will be in the 36,'s +tax.
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Everything you laid out makes sense to me and the other MSRP to actual costs posted above. Like you and others, wondering about the 41,789 / 27,639 breakdown. The MSRP for the FX4 I've on order is $43,330, not sure yet what the final line will be once it comes in - pending which incentive plan I opt for, but figure it will be in the 36,'s +tax.
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#30
So, what is your opinion of X Plan?
Here's a hypothetical truck, 3.7 Super Cab, Sat Radio, Limited Slip, Tow Pkg, Custom Pkg, Convenience Pkg, XLT Plus Pkg, Rear Camera, Keypad Entry.
MSRP $34,115
XLT Conv & Tow Discout -$750
TOTAL MSRP $33,365
Invoice: $30,910
A Plan: $29,655.06
D Plan: $29,755.06
X Plan: 31,061.42
Current Incentives - $4,500
Net w/ Doc Fees $26,661
The way I see it, the dealer made hold back of $972, $150 over invoice and got a $100 Doc fee. Total for a day and a half's work, driving across town for a dealer trade, a $70 tank of gas, plus running the business is about $1,200.
How much can a dealer cut into that?
Here's a hypothetical truck, 3.7 Super Cab, Sat Radio, Limited Slip, Tow Pkg, Custom Pkg, Convenience Pkg, XLT Plus Pkg, Rear Camera, Keypad Entry.
MSRP $34,115
XLT Conv & Tow Discout -$750
TOTAL MSRP $33,365
Invoice: $30,910
A Plan: $29,655.06
D Plan: $29,755.06
X Plan: 31,061.42
Current Incentives - $4,500
Net w/ Doc Fees $26,661
The way I see it, the dealer made hold back of $972, $150 over invoice and got a $100 Doc fee. Total for a day and a half's work, driving across town for a dealer trade, a $70 tank of gas, plus running the business is about $1,200.
How much can a dealer cut into that?