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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Anyone have any idea if going from the stock 19.5 wheels with 33's on them to using the same rims by splitting them to widen them and then using Micky Thompson off road 46 inch tires would work on a 57 F 350 foru wheel drive?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 03:45 AM
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you have 19.5 ??? stock?or ...8 bolt ??or ...got pictures??
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 04:15 AM
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anything is possible with a big 'nuff BFH !!!!!!!!!!! try asking stockton or one of the custom wheel manufacturers also as they might be able to tell you . also stu or one of the resident geniuses might know if it's possible too or if it's something left for those with the equipment and skills .......... ken my f 600 and maybe the 49 f4 too had an odd size rim i think 19.5 , and they were both 5 lug but had adaptors that went from the 8 lug oe to the 5 lug from the factory . weird i know but look at any old ford close enough and .................................
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 04:37 AM
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the more I learn ...the less I know....learn everyday..mostly I'm wrong about something..
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 05:21 AM
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57F350 - To me it would be wrong to cut up stock 19.5s like you describe. Those are pretty rare wheels and, if they are in good shape, somebody else probably needs them to do a stock restoration. Besides Ford, there are also IHC, Dodge, and Studebaker guys that would love to have them. The tall and narrow pizza cutter wheels and tires were used on these trucks because they give better traction than a wide fat tire, or DRW set up, in bad conditions. They will dig in instead of floating on the surface. Might not be what you'd want for rock climbing, but the truck wasn't designed for that either.

Another reason to go with custom wheels over these is strength. If you're using the truck aggressively, these original tubeless designs (17.5s and 19.5s) were not as strong as the stock multi-part wheels. I've heard of a lot of these that, when used with radial tires, didn't hold up (bent, fractured, etc). Matter of fact, the wheel manufacturers specifically noted in their catalogs back then that warranties were voided if these were fitted with radials. I've also got an SAE study that shows that these early tubeless wheels had to be redesigned after being on the market for a while due to failures associated with radial tire usage. On the redesigned wheels, Budd entered a letter "R" in the part number to show they were radial tire approved.

Ken - These are the right bolt pattern for your truck, but if I'm correct are not the deeply dished wheels you'd need to keep yours in about the stock configuration, track width, etc. These are I'm sure single rear wheel style that have a shallow dish. Stu
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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Hey Stu, yeah I agree about these wheels being rare and it would be a shame to cut them up. I was just searching for options. I think keeping these wheels as spares or winter use would be best.
I appreciate your input and thinks.
Its looking like I might go with the Stockton Wheel and most likly a BF goodrich or Michilen tire. Thanks again.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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stocton quoted me 265.00 a rim for 19,5s..I bought 2 and will be getting more as money allows ..
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Yeah they quoted me 1300 to my door in NY, thats four rims, powder coated black, shipping and handling.
These rimes would be 16.5X8 so I can put wider sneakers under this thing and roll it down the beach.
How can I post a picture of my truck on here, old and cruchy as it is its a bad *** truck. Its like the original monster truck.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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I would look into road construction equipment or farm implements for a wider wheel. (think a road grader for their tire size, and the wheel, which maybe could be re-drilled for your bolt pattern on a mill) That should get ya the 46" meats yer looking for. Would those axles hold up? well, that's another matter, lol.

BTW, back in high school, I worked with the town's P&R dept. and their ballfield tractor had a 6 bolt wheel pattern like a half ton GM, but the size of the wheel and tire was about 5 feet tall. I don't remember the make and model of tractor.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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I was at a metal yard the other day and they had some old 5-hole BIG rims (likely 20-ish) that use the outside lock ring. Are these worth checking out? This place generally sells stuff by the pound... these aren't light, tho. With the lock ring off, where would you measure diameter? (I don't think I can impose on them to look for stamped numbers)
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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They are worth having if they aren't badly rusted, bent, or missing the ring. That last point is important because rims and rings must be kept in sets and matched by design type. There were dozens of different designs, and even differences in the various widths within the same design type. If the ring isn't with the rim there's slim chance of ever finding one that is right for the wheel. And to do that would require that you find numbers on each and rely on somebody like me that might have a reference to match them up.

You measure at the inner wheel base where the tire bead seats. And you are right about weight. They commonly weigh 50 lbs or more which is why shipping can be more expensive than the wheels themselves.

Finding and saving them from the crusher is to me mostly a public service for guys that have the widowmakers. You're not gonna get rich, and hauling them around you'll know that you have back muscles that haven't been used in a while. Getting them into the hands of guys that need them can take time, and the most likely people having interest will be within driving distance of your home. But once they have gone to China, they're gone. And guys with big trucks will be SOL.

There may or may not be numbers on the wheels. K-H numbered them with a paper tag. Budd, Accuride, and Motor Wheel stamped them into the steel. Stu
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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i'm a little confused 57f350? is your truck a marmon herrington or factory ford 4x4. i am pretty sure ford didnt make 4x4 until 1959. and Stu, did the 57 f350 have the 6 lug axle or would it have been the regular 8 lug like my 60? i dont ever remember seeing a 57 orphan fridge with the six lug? somebody needs to school me.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 57F350
How can I post a picture of my truck on here, old and cruchy as it is its a bad *** truck. Its like the original monster truck.

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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Thanks for the summary Stu, I'll get some more info about them. The rings are still there. Not sure if there are just two wheels or more.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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I got 6 (16 inch) 6 lug with lock rings. I call them split rims. They are on the 66 F350 DRW. They are in very good shape. Any interest in them?
 
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