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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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I've been thinking that you changed the cam only, is that correct or are you dealing with tuning a complete rebuilt motor?
It is a completely rebuilt motor, that has about 10000mi on it. The cam and lifters were changed around 8000
 
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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So with the previous cam you didn't have the detonation problem and you've made no other changes, right? Previous cam was the 204/214 @ .050" deal, so something about your new cam or the installation brought the problem. You need to put a degree wheel on the motor and see exactly where the new cam is installed to really know what's going on, or simply take some advance out of it.

Another thing to check is your compression. Do a quick check and see what your pumping pressure is running. Much over 170-180psi at cranking speed is getting pretty high, and the cam advance directly effects that #. More advance = higher pumping pressure = possible detonation issue.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OldRacerGuy
So with the previous cam you didn't have the detonation problem and you've made no other changes, right? Previous cam was the 204/214 @ .050" deal, so something about your new cam or the installation brought the problem. You need to put a degree wheel on the motor and see exactly where the new cam is installed to really know what's going on, or simply take some advance out of it.

Another thing to check is your compression. Do a quick check and see what your pumping pressure is running. Much over 170-180psi at cranking speed is getting pretty high, and the cam advance directly effects that #. More advance = higher pumping pressure = possible detonation issue.
ok i will get the compression checked out. and no i havent changed anything else.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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See what Monsterbaby thinks. He has helped me out a lot.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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I just hope that I get a day off work while it is still nice out so that I can mess around with it. Working 60+hours a week is killing my garage time.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Just my 2 cents may or may not be helpful I have this exact cam in my wrecker tow heavy all the time. I had this problem at first put a performance curve kit in the dizzy and degreed the cam all good now. Here is my build 1.772 comp. ht .189 dished pistons ported d3ve a2a heads .041 thick head gasket stealth intake 750 holley by the way heads are decked .030. After I got figured out this pulls like a freight train and I have no complaints.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 03:31 AM
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Just my 2 cents may or may not be helpful I have this exact cam in my wrecker tow heavy all the time. I had this problem at first put a performance curve kit in the dizzy and degreed the cam all good now. Here is my build 1.772 comp. ht .189 dished pistons ported d3ve a2a heads .041 thick head gasket stealth intake 750 holley by the way heads are decked .030. After I got figured out this pulls like a freight train and I have no complaints.
what degree did you set the cam at?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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I degreed the cam to true 0 which I discovered that 0 on my cloyes true roller was actually about 3 advanced at the cam making the detonation problem more compounded at any rate I got an offset crank key to the correct the timing from PBM performance products
 
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