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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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Truck died???

I have an 08 F350 6.4 KR 33K mi. I was heading to bass pro and got about 2 miles from home and my truck acted like it was running out of gas. I pulled to the side and it was dead before I stopped. turned key off and then tried to restart and it cranked fine but did not start or sound like it wanted to start. a little picture of an oil can was on the screen and I about died. I pulled the dipstick and there was oil ( i hate no oil guage!). before this happened I noticed it ran and sounded different, louder and more responsive than usual. I did warm it up for about 10+ minutes before I left as our temps have been below zero for a while. I have been doing a lot of warm up idling lately which I am reading is not a good idea. after sitting on the side of the road for a few minutes it started up and is running but still sounds different and is very responsive and goes into regen. Any ideas?
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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When did you change your fuel filters last? It could be a plugged fuel filter.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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It is not a good idea to let it sit and idle. It realy clogs up the dpf and it is hard on the motor with that darn dpf. If you do not have a block heater I would invest inone so you can plug your truck in to avoid the cold starts.

The fuel filters like stated above may be part of the problem. It sounds like your truck would still be in warranty. I am wondering if the dpf is not clogged. Let us know what you find and good luck.
 

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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I think it might be fuel related but I dont think its a filter. When my truck goes into regen it is louder and more responsive and this situation feels the same. what is the DPF and what is wet stacking?
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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DPF - Diesel Particulate Filter - in the exhaust system, traps the diesel soot, regenerates to burn it to ash. I wouldn't think it could be plugged with only 33,000 miles on it. It's supposed to be good for 120 - 150,000 before needing an out of vehicle cleaning or replacement.

Wet stacking - not all fuel is burnt and contimues into exhaust system as black oily ooze. exhaust pipe is called a stack, therefore wet stacking.

Sounds like you could have run short on fuel. Have your fuel filters been changed as a set at recommended intervals? Are they OEM filters?

I never heard of an oil can. Are you sure it isn't a wrench? At any rate you need to have the codes read. That will tell you more than anything we can tell you here.

God bless!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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How cold has it been and are you running with #2 diesel? And are you using a fuel additive? Your diesel fuel line will gel up in cold weather. Look for a local truck stop that has winter treated fuel. It may help and is a hard lesson that most of us have learned in winter climates.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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Good point. Having been around diesel for years, I tend to forget some folk in these pickups have not.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Wouldnt the oil can light come on when no oil pressure? I havent noticed one in these trucks but seeing as there is no oil pressure gauge Im assuming there is one.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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Looks like it might have been a gel problem. This truck has been in a lot colder weather than this, but I think my fuel is not as good as I normally get. We dont have choices for diesel, at least anywhere close. I have added Ford's anti-gel cetane booster and put some miles on to be sure it is mixed well and all the way into the engine. I have been driving diesels since 2000 and this is the first time I have had a gel problem. and there really is an icon that comes on that looks like a genie type oil can, not a wrench. no codes. thanks for the input. this site is awsome.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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I don't know if you have read this or not. But it sounds very similar......But my wrench was on the dash also

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...road-dead.html
 
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When was the last time you tried to drain your fuel water separator? How freely does it flow. Might give you an indication of the gelling.
 
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I am going to change the fuel filters as soon as it melts out under the truck. Holy crap $105 for the filters at the dealer. what is a good way to tell if you are "making oil", the dipstick only has that little white tip to read and its hard to read the wire.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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I am going to change the fuel filters as soon as it melts out under the truck. Holy crap $105 for the filters at the dealer.

You might try dieselfiltersonline.com. They will have better prices.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by matt0588
I am going to change the fuel filters as soon as it melts out under the truck. Holy crap $105 for the filters at the dealer. what is a good way to tell if you are "making oil", the dipstick only has that little white tip to read and its hard to read the wire.
Try using the short stick method. Cold motor, level surface. Pull the stick, wipe and then insert just to the handle and then pull it back out. Should read in the middle of the hash marks...that would be the full level.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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I am going to change the fuel filters as soon as it melts out under the truck. Holy crap $105 for the filters at the dealer. what is a good way to tell if you are "making oil", the dipstick only has that little white tip to read and its hard to read the wire.
Matt, the best way to tell if you're making oil is to collect a sample and have it analyzed when you change oil. This will tell you the % of fuel in the oil. Thank the Good Lord, in eight samples, mine has had 0% fuel dilution every time.

Now as to filters. I've been fortunate enough to buy genuine Motorcraft filters on eBay at amazing prices. I just bought a set of FD-4617 Motorcraft fuel filters and an FA-1886 air filter on eBay shipped to me for less than the price Ford wants for the air filter. I previously had purchased FD-4617 fuel filters and an FL-2016 oil filter shipped for less than the price of the fuel filters anywhere else.

Hope you find a good source!
 

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