D 60 breakage question
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D 60 breakage question
i went to move the 88 today to get more room to stack snow, and it moved about 6 inches in reverse and then a loud bang, and now only rear wheel drive.
the driveshaft is still in it, so it is not a u-joint, and it does not make any noises at all.
what do you think, blown hub, or something inside the diff?
i can not check anything where it is, because it is burried under 3 ft of snow.
i will have to tow it out of there to get it into the driveway/garage to fix it.
the driveshaft is still in it, so it is not a u-joint, and it does not make any noises at all.
what do you think, blown hub, or something inside the diff?
i can not check anything where it is, because it is burried under 3 ft of snow.
i will have to tow it out of there to get it into the driveway/garage to fix it.
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if you're not getting anything out of the front at all i'd vote on a snapped pinion shaft. thats all i could figure that would kill all front axle power, or something in the front output of the t-case is fubared.
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Could be a blown hub. Unless you have a limited slip or a locker, if one hub goes, no power will go to the other wheel.
Come to think about it, something could be wrong in the transfer case as well. You'll have to dig it out of the snow to further trouble shoot in either case.
Come to think about it, something could be wrong in the transfer case as well. You'll have to dig it out of the snow to further trouble shoot in either case.
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You can dance all you want, if there's a wheel not attached to the diff, you're done, front or rear. All the power will take the path of least resistance, and that will be to the wheel with the least traction, or the axle shaft that isn't attached to a wheel anymore.
I've seen a 203 equipped Blazer stopped dead in it's tracks because of a broken shaft in the 10B front and an owner that had no clue how to lock the diff in the t-case...
I've seen a 203 equipped Blazer stopped dead in it's tracks because of a broken shaft in the 10B front and an owner that had no clue how to lock the diff in the t-case...
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From: utica il
the only front hubs i ever torched were on a locked front, had no clue it would kill all movement, but i should have known. i know and understand how open diffs work, it just didn't click like it should have................ thanks for punching me in the face with logic 
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i hope it ain't the t-case. that damn thing only has less than 2000 miles on it.
i am kind of thinking it is the driver side hub, cause 1: i am not sure if it was totally locked, there was 5 foot of snow packed against it, and i only cleared enough to get my big paw in there to twist it. and 2: they are the stock ford hubs that are 23 years old, and have close to 500 k miles on the axle.
i am kind of thinking it is the driver side hub, cause 1: i am not sure if it was totally locked, there was 5 foot of snow packed against it, and i only cleared enough to get my big paw in there to twist it. and 2: they are the stock ford hubs that are 23 years old, and have close to 500 k miles on the axle.
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All things being equal (level ground, tires pointed straight etc) the driver side hub is usually the first to go. Teh long side shaft can absorb a good bit more rotational force along its length and that generally means its easier on all related parts.
The hubs not being fully locked would certainly be my first thing to check though.
The hubs not being fully locked would certainly be my first thing to check though.
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its fixed!!
jack ***,(me) in his state of sleep deprivation, apparently only put the transfer case partly in 4 high, and the noise he (I) heard was the t-case slamming back into 2 wheel.
i pushed the back clear in preparation to tow it out, and then got into it and started it up.
just for sheits and giggles, i pulled it into 4 high, and it walked rite out.
so once it was on dry pavement, i had one of the neighbors hop in it, and i watched as he moved it in 2 wheel with the hubs locked where everything moved, 2 wheel hubs unlocked and nothing moved, and 4 high hubs unlocked where everything moved again.
took it for a test drive, and everything is nice and quiet, so i guess it was just halfway in gear and popped out.
i will test 4 wheel in a snowy field another day when i am not so tired.
jack ***,(me) in his state of sleep deprivation, apparently only put the transfer case partly in 4 high, and the noise he (I) heard was the t-case slamming back into 2 wheel.
i pushed the back clear in preparation to tow it out, and then got into it and started it up.
just for sheits and giggles, i pulled it into 4 high, and it walked rite out.
so once it was on dry pavement, i had one of the neighbors hop in it, and i watched as he moved it in 2 wheel with the hubs locked where everything moved, 2 wheel hubs unlocked and nothing moved, and 4 high hubs unlocked where everything moved again.
took it for a test drive, and everything is nice and quiet, so i guess it was just halfway in gear and popped out.
i will test 4 wheel in a snowy field another day when i am not so tired.
