Pick up the latest Diesel Power Magazine, the 6.7 and 6.6 face off in a very very compareable test. Problem is the test was so even only 200 lbs seperated the trucks and the Duramax is pretty much the hands down winner.


edit: Dodge was not in the test because it was not rated to pull the weight they were pulling.

 

Thanks for the info.

We've been down this road before. The road manners of the 6.7 and the Ford SD vehicle as a whole are great. GM and Dodge can do whatever they want, they can beat us in races or whatever. At the end of the day, my truck does what I need it to do so if it is slower or the exhaust brake does not work all that great then so be it.

It's like Coke vs. Pepsi. Both are satisfying, take your pick.

 

Your welcome for the Info,

Whats really interesting is how Diesel Power went out of their way to make the testing even. I guess they got tired of everyone nit picking all the little things like axel ratio's light trailers and what not. They even got a retired Ford trailering engineer to do the testing.... He liked the chevy

 

I would like to know where they get off on saying that the Dodge isn't rated to pull what the others are. In the brochures I have, the Dodge Ram 3500 equipped with the 4.10 axle, in cc/4x4/sm/srw format is rated at 16900lbs towing cap, 24000lbs gcwr. The Ford F350 is only available with the 3.55 in srw format, but otherwise the same configuration truck, towing cap of 15800lbs, 23500lbs gcwr, this is on the 5th wheel, on the bumper its limited to 14000lbs cap. I have the GM book also, but its not within my reach.

My point is, if you're loading the Ford and GM to their maxumim capacities, get the Dodge with its maximum capacities also. Ford doesn't offer a gear other than 3.31 and 3.55 in the SRW, can't remember what GM does, but regardless, Dodge offers a 4.10...use it...

Another thing, has anyone ever seen dyno result of all 3 trucks? I haven't, but I have driven all 3 trucks. I can honestly say that even with my Ford bias, the Cummins engine definately doesn't feel like its 50hp and 150ftlbs shy of the competition. It feels much torquier than the others. The Ford and GM have a "car/gasser" like acceleration, feels very powerful, very fast. I found the Dodge to feel more like a semi, boat, or other high torque engine...

 

I believe this test was comparing dual rear wheel trucks; the Dodge 3500 dually is not rated by Dodge to tow as much as the Ford or GM according to the article in this magazine. By the way, this test was bought and paid for by GM. The magazine picked out the trucks from dealers in their area but I would not put it past GM to make sure there was only one of theirs available and it was maxed out on the tune; after all this is the same company that ran commercials stating they had paid back all loans to the federal government ahead of schedule. Technically they did but only 8 billion of the over 50 billion we invested in GM was a loan; the rest is in stock that will have to get to $51 per share before the Feds can sell it and break even. Today it's at $36 per share.

 

Here we go again...

Chevy is all butch compared to my hot blonde - I'm keeping the hot blonde.

 

I concur that the test should not have been even. The test should be based on which trucks is the best taking into account their maxed out capabilities. Ie they should test a Chevy 1 ton maxed out vs a Dodge 1 ton maxed out vs a Ford 450 maxed out. They need to take into consideration that Ford can pull 3000 lbs more and offers a 4.30 axle to get an accurate picture. By that fact above Ford is the "best" because the have a step beyond the Chevy and Dodge 1 tons. Please note I am not knocking the Ford 350, for my use I kinda wish I had opted for it myself.

 

How much longer are we going to kick around these piddling differences between rival diesel trucks. I don't think very many people even care. I guess these truck rags have to justify their existance by playing one brand off against another. It just provides ammo for the Trolls

 

Even I have given up on the DP/PUT.com Rumble stuff...If the OP really wants the truth he can look for it here and elsewhere by doing a little searching...

 

Thats funny I was thinking the same thing also. I find it interesting how much they are pressing their product. I was also thinking how easy it would of been to take your truck tune it up just a bit and go buy a Ford and run it against it. They also did not run the dyno before they did this test like they did every other test.

We will kick them around till the end the time or vehicles get outlawed. Don't participate.

read the response above then take note of the vehicle I own.

 

 

At the end of the day, I don't know just how many people base their buying decisions on these tests. I know I certainly don't. I do lots of research through forums such as these, try and weed out the BS and make an educated decision. If a truck makes you happy and does what you need it to do, it doesn't really matter what brand it is. Often it comes down to how well your dealer treats you and your truck.

 

I am unsure of what your response to my post means. If you just look around a little you will find all kinds of threads on all the forums where you posted this thread. If you did not know this, the original version of this Chevy commercial debuted about 8 weeks ago over at pickuptrucks.com. Mike Levine's group along with Diesel Power Magazine teamed up with Chevy to produce the event known as The "Rumble in the Rockies" at PUT.com and "King of the Hill" in Diesel Power. This has been discussed ad-nauseum here and elsewhere. I have contributed much to this debate. At times, I wish I had not...

Regards

 

Just so everyone knows... This is Rickatic's favorite topic!

 

I will admit, I have provided a lot of guys some opportunities to sharpen their research skills. So far, no takers on providing rebuttal facts to the questions I raised with the facts I provided. Lots of rock throwing and name calling but no rebuttal facts...there is a good reason...after Ford beat GM to the top of GM's own hill at the GM Proving Ground in Milford, Michigan when pulling 12000 pounds in 4wd, the power question had been answered...below 8000 feet altitude...this was with a 390/735 powered Ford.

Troy, see what you did here ?

Regards