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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:34 AM
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Programer Issues

I am using a Supperchips programer on my 2004 6.0 with 170k on it. It comes with four settings: Tow Haul heavy, Tow Haul light, Performance and Economy. I have been running on Performance now for some time. I have experienced a leak around one of the pipes on the exhaust manifold (what I think is antifreeze). I have also noticed more oil around the bottom of the engine than when I purchased it. Can the programer be adding to my leaking? Is there a preferred setting for the engine?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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I had a super chip and had all kinds of problems. The worst one being blowing my head gaskets. If you are going to keep it, I wouldnt run anything over the tow tunes. The ECO tune isnt much different than performance, at least it wasn't on mine.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Is there any evidence of the coolant reservoir over flowing?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Truck Paradise: When cold the resivior is below the minimum line. When hot it is above the max line or righ at it. Lawnboy 1965: When you say above the tow settings you mean don't run the ECO or the Performance? That is becuase you assume the two settings, ECO and Performance are over working the engine and not that much different from eachother? Just want to make an informed decision because I can't find much out there to say Superchips are damaging except for a couple users of this forum determined that Superchips will harm your truck. How long before you began seeing issues?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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I don't recomend anything other than a custom tunner for a 6.0. They are just to finicky.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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Evidence of the reservoir over flowing like traces of dried coolant coming from the cap? I ask this because all of the 6.0 headgasket failures I've seen had this from compression leaking into the coolant passages and it has to go somewhere.

If no, then good. It's probably not the fault of the tuner over boosting the motor. Though I've never seen a 6.0 headgasket leak coolant externally, I'm sure someone else has.

Tuners are a good thing as long as they are used responsibly. You are right in using the highest setting (while not towing) for the best power/fuel economy. I prefer to use tuners with some safety features like the Edge juice w/attitude because I don't trust all of my customers right foot. They aren't fool proof but the little safety net they provide is nice.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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I prefer to use tuners with some safety features like the Edge juice w/attitude because I don't trust all of my customers right foot. They aren't fool proof but the little safety net they provide is nice.
The edge is probably the single worst tunner for a 6.0. A general rule if thumb is if it has sof tunning it's not very good for these trucks.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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The edge is probably the single worst tunner for a 6.0. A general rule if thumb is if it has sof tunning it's not very good for these trucks.
Sorry for the threadjack but please explain.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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I had an Superchips 1704 Max MicroTuner for 2004 Ford 6.0 Diesel and it caused an low pressure in my trans and burned out the OD and Reverse. Since then I have gone to SCT.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by truck paradise
Sorry for the threadjack but please explain.
they are known as transmission wreckers because they don't do anything for the transmission to account for the added power
I have one sitting in a box I paid $500 for and pulled off in short order
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:44 PM
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Okay, I get it. I am only hearing from those who have had issues with the product. I guess if you are not having issues you are not on this thread to begin with. But I do respect the experience and time you have all spent. Say I am persuaded to put it back on the shelf and purchase a different chip. What is the hands down best and safest product out there for my pride and joy 6.0?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:46 PM
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I would say an SCT seems to be best for the 6.0L
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by truck paradise
Sorry for the threadjack but please explain.
Zmann got it, I thought I would expand on it. Your shift on the fly devices don't really tune the computers. I like to use the analogy of a PC/MAC and installing new software. Some programs require that you "restart" the computer for the installation to take affect. Same thing with our trucks. Thus, by it's very definition, shift on the fly is mutually exclusive with properly tuning our trucks.

Now some trucks can get away with shift on the fly, ours specifically can't.

The Edge module line of devices have quite a bit of history or ruining the transmissions on our trucks, which are about as bullet proof of a stock auto tranny there is out there for the time, because the "programming" on them doesn't hold up and then you have problems with the direct clutch burning up on these trannys.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
Zmann got it, I thought I would expand on it. Your shift on the fly devices don't really tune the computers. I like to use the analogy of a PC/MAC and installing new software. Some programs require that you "restart" the computer for the installation to take affect. Same thing with our trucks. Thus, by it's very definition, shift on the fly is mutually exclusive with properly tuning our trucks.

Now some trucks can get away with shift on the fly, ours specifically can't.

The Edge module line of devices have quite a bit of history or ruining the transmissions on our trucks, which are about as bullet proof of a stock auto tranny there is out there for the time, because the "programming" on them doesn't hold up and then you have problems with the direct clutch burning up on these trannys.
Tex explaned it best
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Okay, I get it. I am only hearing from those who have had issues with the product. I guess if you are not having issues you are not on this thread to begin with. ?

I never had an issue and I loved my shift on the fly edge

just too many problems from other folks ,, and Goggle searches had a plethora of old post on other sites from people toasting transmissions

Basically the SCT does a re flash and the Edge intercepts incoming and out going signals from sensors and the ECM and modifies to trick the power train into doing what it wants

I have my edge in the closet $500 I am too afraid to use it again ..and haven't had the desire to sell it to someone else
 
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