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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No P350's or P400's were assembled after 1976. No P500's were assembled after 1977. No P600's were assembled after 1979.

So, whatever you have, is not a P Series. Your truck has a 17 digit VIN .. The 5th, 6th and 7th digits is the series code, post what it is.
Thanks so much for the help. For a decade I have been assuming it a P-series. The digits are E30. Is this just a stretched 1 ton van with a 2000 pounds of Grumman chassis set on top?

In western Oregon there are dozens of these Wonder bread vans that have had the in line six removed and a tiny turbo diesel made by white-hercules installed. It is a poor match for the T-18 speed manual tranny yet gets 20 MPG(at 50 mph) so I put up with it.

I would love to slip a different tranny in this beast yet know not what other tranny would fit this ford/hercules combo with its adapter plate. I did pick up a brownie over/under a few years ago yet am not sure the 80 or so horses of this engine could handle an additional piece of drivetrain.

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
 
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 09:14 AM
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insurance

Originally Posted by Inafordtruck
does anyone know if you have to have commercail insurance on these trucks or can you have regular not using for work!
I insured mine for years as a just a one ton van yet. I found business use insurance to be less! Ala, I am but a private individual so I jus added it to my Geico policy. I am converting to it slowly to an RV. My insurance company may not like this idea yet I am pressing forward.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jottoh12
Thanks so much for the help. For a decade I have been assuming it a P-series. The digits are E30

Is this just a stretched 1 ton van with a 2000 pounds of Grumman chassis set on top?
Just as I suspected, it's an E350 (1 ton Econoline) Cut-Away, series code: E30 = E350 Cut-Away Cab-RV

Ford took the cargo van, cut the body off behind the front seats so that Class C motorhome bodies could be installed.

Ford also sold the E350's rolling chassis to UPS, RV dealers (for Class A motorhome) and etc. so they could install their own bodies.

btw: In 1967, Al Pratt, the fleet manager at Stockton Quincy Ford in Westwood (near UCLA) bought 100 surplus P350's from Frito-Lay.

These were 1961/64's with 223 I-6's, most had over 100,000 miles on them. Al had his mechanic (he was 80 years old and senile!) do minor mechanical work, then sent 'em to Earl Sheib to be painted white.

Then he sold them with a 6 month warranty. Some were converted to campers by their new 'hippie' owners.

You can guess what happened next, many were soon towed to the dealership, as their engines had blown up. Al was known forever therafter as Al P. Ratt!
 
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Just as I suspected, it's an E350 (1 ton Econoline) Cut-Away, series code: E30 = E350 Cut-Away Cab-RV

Ford took the cargo van, cut the body off behind the front seats so that Class C motorhome bodies could be installed.

Ford also sold the E350's rolling chassis to UPS, RV dealers (for Class A motorhome) and etc. so they could install their own bodies.
Thanks Bill. Do you have any experience with the entire diesel-conversion thing promoted by Hercules? I saw a brochure on eBay once yet that is all I have ever come across. Did the conversion use stock ford parts except for the adapter plate? The clutch is amazingly difficult to depress so I think maybe this conversion was not well thought out or a really HD clutch was used. Thanks
 
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jottoh12
Thanks Bill. Do you have any experience with the entire diesel-conversion thing promoted by Hercules? I saw a brochure on eBay once yet that is all I have ever come across.
I haven't a clue and read post #48 again, as I edited in a story about P350's that, as a parts guy, I was personally involved with.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Inafordtruck
Yes mine has 3oo inline 6.will a straight axle from a f250 bolt in place of 7 1/4 × 6 bolt pattern axle .for more modern wheels or do you know of abetter idea.5 speed transmission out of f250 .rearend from f250.for higher gears.more able to get up to speed. Exhaust system intake systems.
Not understanding the question here. Sorry I cannot help.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 08:52 PM
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looks like i am screwed here.my transmission is a 3 speed granny .want a 5 speed any sugestions .would like higher gearing rearend
 
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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wish i could figure out how to put my trucks pics with my posts .i put them on here somewhere.damn i am computer dum!
 
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Old Jan 29, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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wish i could figure out how to put my trucks pics with my posts .i put them on here somewhere.damn i am computer dum!
When composing, look for the paper clip to the right of the smiley and click on it. Then you can download a photo from your gizmo.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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P Series sub-page?

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
A Step Van is Chevrolet's version of Ford's: P Series Parcel Delivery, made 1953/77. Once there was the P100, P350, P400 & P500. The P100 was later dropped.

The rolling chassis was also used for Class A motorhomes, manufactured by Condor, for example.

Ford sold an incomplete vehicle (rolling chassis, front sheet metal, dash, steering column and etc), then purchasers installed the body of their choice.

UPS used the P Series thru 1975, then began using the E350 chassis.

So many P Series were sold to bakery's, they have been known for decades as "bread trucks."
What do you suppose the chances of that are?

Thanks for all of your assistance with parts. I was chatting with Randy the steering box fellow who knows of you just yesterday.

Michael
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:37 PM
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I believe I am a proud new owner of a Ratt van!

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Just as I suspected, it's an E350 (1 ton Econoline) Cut-Away, series code: E30 = E350 Cut-Away Cab-RV

Ford took the cargo van, cut the body off behind the front seats so that Class C motorhome bodies could be installed.

Ford also sold the E350's rolling chassis to UPS, RV dealers (for Class A motorhome) and etc. so they could install their own bodies.

btw: In 1967, Al Pratt, the fleet manager at Stockton Quincy Ford in Westwood (near UCLA) bought 100 surplus P350's from Frito-Lay.

These were 1961/64's with 223 I-6's, most had over 100,000 miles on them. Al had his mechanic (he was 80 years old and senile!) do minor mechanical work, then sent 'em to Earl Sheib to be painted white.

Then he sold them with a 6 month warranty. Some were converted to campers by their new 'hippie' owners.

You can guess what happened next, many were soon towed to the dealership, as their engines had blown up. Al was known forever therafter as Al P. Ratt!
Having pulled the grill, I find a typical Scheib paint job over the rubber welting. Of course, it has been painted with brush and roller numerous times since then.

My biggest anxiety after doing all the fixes to brakes, wiring, wheels, etc., is how the old 223 will be... Now what did I do with that compression gauge?

Thanks again for the story!

Michael
 
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I have a 1987 Grumman Olson E350, need a wiring diagram. Do you know where to get one?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2020 | 03:57 PM
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I have a 1987 Grumman Olson E350, need a wiring diagram. Do you know where to get one?
E350 is an Econoline. Try faxonautolit.com
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 01:49 AM
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Quote you " six, will do the job.[/QUOTE]

When you say "six " is that a 6 straight?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 01:58 AM
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I have a 73 ford curbmaster By any chance can you help me out . An tell me what you know about my truck. I brought it in july an i think she's ready to go show her so i put her in a "pre 87 car show" an this is my first classic. I wanted a 50s sweet stop but w my budget i went mobile an went classic. Due to price of 50s )) but any ways i freaken love it an i wanna know everything there is to know about it. If u know . Please an thank you. If not no bigge .
 
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