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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:34 AM
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Best and endurable engine for Exursion?

Good day and happy new year all of you.

I want to change my 1990 F-150 5.0 to 2005 Excursion. What would be the best and endurable engine for Excurison. Wich engine prefer, diesel or gasoline? What is the best diesel version?
I´am sorry if this thread has been here before, very hard to find answers for past.

Thank you, and waiting your opinions wiht explanations
Mike
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:45 AM
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7.3 diesel
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:57 AM
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Are there any 7.3 diesels 2005 EX ?????????????
I vote for V10.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:58 AM
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V10, no gas sipper but plenty of power and reliablity to boot!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 02:15 AM
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Thank you all, so if I understand correctly, then the most reliablity diesel is 7,3 and gasoline V10.
AlaskanEX how much is your V10 fuel consumption about? How it rides in snow and on ice?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 02:27 AM
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just get the diesel and be done with it, nothing like a turbo.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by b-uno
just get the diesel and be done with it, nothing like a turbo.
You are right...there's nothing like a turbo in a 2005 6.oH Ex to coke up and leave you and your family stranded on the side of the road!

Now...for reliable and powerful engine in a 2005 Excurison...there is only ONE choice...the venerable V10.

Look at the history and longevity of the V10...it has survived the 7.3, 6.oH, 6.4L and now the 6.7L PSD's...I'd say Ford got it RIGHT with the V10...

My V10 has taken my family and I on some incredible adventures all over this beautiful country. My 11 and 13 year old daughters will be in 40 states after our July 4500 mile towing trek. We pull a 9000# travel trailer all over behind this V10 and there hasn't been a hill yet that she can't easily climb and we've been to and thru the Rockies TWICE and are heading back again in July...

As far as mpg's...in my 20,000+++ TOWING miles my AVERAGE mpgs are 8 TOWING. I don't report my single best one time phenomenal off the chart tank as "my mpgs"...I report the running average. Sure I've gotten better and worse tanks...but I think the average for my towing holds more weight personally...I've got all the tanks written down if anyone wants to see them plus I've got the gallon price too...kind of scary when you look at the massive swings in a gallon of fuel over the years...so I've got the data to prove this number too...

Good luck with your choice...these PSD vs V10 threads never end well... ... I just know the V10 does what Ford designed her to do very well from my personal experiences towing this rather heavy travel trailer all over the country.

Joe.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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I agree with Joe - the V10 is fantastic. I'm towing a twin engine Sea Ray which weighs 10,500 on the trailer and it has done a wonderful job. Mileage isn't great - 7.5 towing the boat, 11.5-12 around town and 12.5-14 (depending on speed) on the highway. You can do some cost comparison between gas or diesel ownership:

miles driven per year * mpg = gallons used per year
gallons used per year * cost of fuel per gallon = annual fuel costs

Good luck!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tdappleman
miles driven per year * mpg = gallons used per year
gallons used per year * cost of fuel per gallon = annual fuel costs

Good luck!

Should be:

miles driven per year / mpg = gallons used per year
gallons used per year * cost of fuel per gallon = annual fuel costs

Lots of other threads with lots of other factors to consider, either
choice the Ex is a great vehicle - the '05 is newer and thus has
typically more features (especially since the dealers ordered lots of
options to maximize their profit on each)

Good luck, if you do *NOT* want to tinker and really get to know
your PSD (ie: do mods to try to avoid problem) then the V10
might be better.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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The most reliable engine really is the V8. We NEVER hear of any problems with that engine. But my guess is that even though it may be the most reliable you will want the v10 or the 6.0.

Either way you can't loose. But if you truly want the most reliable get the v8.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by katiesdad7
The most reliable engine really is the V8. We NEVER hear of any problems with that engine. But my guess is that even though it may be the most reliable you will want the v10 or the 6.0.

Either way you can't loose. But if you truly want the most reliable get the v8.
I suspect the reason we don't hear much about the V8 is that they repesent such a small percentage of all the Ex's out there and an even SMALLER of the percentage of people that would be on the forums...just a hunch...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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on edit - XHemi and I posted at same time and you can look in my signature for what I prefer as I traded up to get the last of the breed so I could keep it as long as possible - 120k hard miles and still a daily driver!

KD,
maybe the reason we never hear about issues with the v8 is they may have sold only 3 of them just kidding....

get the best vehicle you can find with papers and records, the purchase of ANY used vehicle is a crapshoot...

now we can talk about which oil is best to use
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Misky6.0
Should be:

miles driven per year / mpg = gallons used per year
gallons used per year * cost of fuel per gallon = annual fuel costs

Lots of other threads with lots of other factors to consider, either
choice the Ex is a great vehicle - the '05 is newer and thus has
typically more features (especially since the dealers ordered lots of
options to maximize their profit on each)

Good luck, if you do *NOT* want to tinker and really get to know
your PSD (ie: do mods to try to avoid problem) then the V10
might be better.
I'd agree that if you don't like to tinker, you won't get the most from a diesel (PowerStroke diesel = PSD). If you just want to get in and drive, have the money for fuel but a V10 will be simpler to own.

If you do like to tinker, then a PSD can be very rewarding. I'm in the market for an Ex currently and won't consider other than the 7.3 personally. Why? My 99 F250 with the 7.3 has 186,000 on her, and I've put 98,000 of them on in 4 years of ownership. Sure, oil changes are more expensive, fuel filters get changed more often... I'm OK with that. Has it left me stranded? Yep, just once. And that was 100% operator error. And cost $30 to get her all fixed up. With 31" tires & winter fuel I'm getting 15/16MPG on my city/highway commute. With 33"s and all highway @ 70mph, I'll get 20MPG. I've done that twice. Doesn't sound like much until you know that it was calculated after 4,000 mile roundtrip drives (Denver-Baltimore-Denver) and some family visit commuting.

I must say though, the price premium between a V10 & 7.3 PSD is significant, and if money was the only deciding factor, I'd probably buy the V10. But it's not, and the reliability and knowledge I've gained of the 7.3 has won me over. Irrational, perhaps, but we buy these rigs because we look out the window and smile with a little pride at the gorgeous beast in the driveway. For me, the heart of that beast must be diesel.

For 2005 the only engine I'd feel confident in would be the V10. I'm wondering... what has you stuck on the '05 model year?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by papadelogan
I'd agree that if you don't like to tinker, you won't get the most from a diesel (PowerStroke diesel = PSD). If you just want to get in and drive, have the money for fuel but a V10 will be simpler to own.
Simpler in some respects...yes...

BUT if you tow heavy like I do and tow all over the country...simpler...maybe not...the V10 does take some knowledge to be able to pull hills at speed...you just can't press and go so to speak...you need to be aware of the engine RPM's as you approach the hills and scan for traffic/etc. Not that you can't regain speed on the grade...because you can...I remember this one grade on I-64 when I rolled up on an Army convoy that I couldn't get around...I slowed down to 20mph in the middle of a 5 mile long 7% grade...argh...when I was able to pull into the go lane I downshifted to 1st gear and then shifted to 2nd and before I knew it I was back up to 60mph on the grade...BUT it did take me running the motor up to 4500rpms and using the fuel for that!...so you just pay a premium for fuel then...the V10 is an awesome pulling motor but she does have her preferred power band and it is up to the driver to manage them...so in that respect...if the OP is going to be pulling heavy like me...I wouldn't say simpler...but not complex either...the V10 is a great engine but did take some learning curve...but once I figured her out...man does she reward!!!


Originally Posted by papadelogan
For me, the heart of that beast must be diesel.
if I lived in Colorado...I'd want some type of turbo or supercharger too...so I agree with your choice for your situation 100%...

Joe.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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I'm curious as well as to why you are saying 2005 only. Is there a reason for that year specifically. I think this one may be a personal preference. Some dont like the sound of the diesel. If you are stuck w 2005 year i would agree w the v10 instead of 6.0. If you are into possibly looking at older years look at a nice 7.3 . You cant go wrong with either. Not sure who said it earlier but which ever engine they will both do your job for you, just check it out thoroughly though. Keep us posted on purchase and good luck.
 
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