Steering box and pump selection/compatibility
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Steering box and pump selection/compatibility
Hey all,
I was wondering if those of you that have done the Toyota or GM steering box swap, what kind of pump did you go with. The reason I ask is that I found a box from a 77 Monte Carlo and was curious if I should also grab the pump, thinking that there may be problems if I try to run a GM box from a Ford PS pump. Sound logical or am I off base?
I was wondering if those of you that have done the Toyota or GM steering box swap, what kind of pump did you go with. The reason I ask is that I found a box from a 77 Monte Carlo and was curious if I should also grab the pump, thinking that there may be problems if I try to run a GM box from a Ford PS pump. Sound logical or am I off base?
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that brings up another question
OK so any pump that will get the pressure and volume will work. Does anyone know what that might be for any steering box or rack and pinion?
I have accumulated several pumps along the way several that I have no idea whrere they came from due to my (n)ever improving memory. It is easy enough to calculate volume based on pressure drop across an orfice. Most steering pumps have a built in pressure relief so the volume has to be measured at a lower pressure than max. - - - Now the more difficult part - - - How much pressure and at what volume does a steering box or rack need to be happy????? where can we get that kind of information easily? I am somewhat challenged when it comes to searches. Seems like the obvious to most of you guys escapes me when it comes time to search for an item. What would you look for when using a spesific rack and pinion? I have tried specifications for crown Vic rack and pinion, pressure requirements, volume requirements, and other stuff too strange to mention. If anyone finds the "magic" question please post it here along with the answer.
By the way GOOD QUESTION!!!!
I have accumulated several pumps along the way several that I have no idea whrere they came from due to my (n)ever improving memory. It is easy enough to calculate volume based on pressure drop across an orfice. Most steering pumps have a built in pressure relief so the volume has to be measured at a lower pressure than max. - - - Now the more difficult part - - - How much pressure and at what volume does a steering box or rack need to be happy????? where can we get that kind of information easily? I am somewhat challenged when it comes to searches. Seems like the obvious to most of you guys escapes me when it comes time to search for an item. What would you look for when using a spesific rack and pinion? I have tried specifications for crown Vic rack and pinion, pressure requirements, volume requirements, and other stuff too strange to mention. If anyone finds the "magic" question please post it here along with the answer.
By the way GOOD QUESTION!!!!
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The easiest thing to do is to run a pump that is compatible with the engine you are running so you don't have to fab custom brackets.
I'm running an early 70's Caddy 500ci engine with the stock power steering pump connected to my Toyota box. The big problem was connecting the pump with standard fittings to the box with metric fittings. The return is no problem as its low pressure. For the pressure hose I took the standard fitting from the Caddy hose and cut the toyo hose, removed the metric fitting, replaced it with the standard fitting and reflared it.
You could probably have a local hydraulic shop fab the hose up as well. I think there is a company, Gottashow, or something like that that makes braided hoses that would work.
Bobby
I'm running an early 70's Caddy 500ci engine with the stock power steering pump connected to my Toyota box. The big problem was connecting the pump with standard fittings to the box with metric fittings. The return is no problem as its low pressure. For the pressure hose I took the standard fitting from the Caddy hose and cut the toyo hose, removed the metric fitting, replaced it with the standard fitting and reflared it.
You could probably have a local hydraulic shop fab the hose up as well. I think there is a company, Gottashow, or something like that that makes braided hoses that would work.
Bobby
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The easiest thing to do is to run a pump that is compatible with the engine you are running so you don't have to fab custom brackets.
I'm running an early 70's Caddy 500ci engine with the stock power steering pump connected to my Toyota box. The big problem was connecting the pump with standard fittings to the box with metric fittings. The return is no problem as its low pressure. For the pressure hose I took the standard fitting from the Caddy hose and cut the toyo hose, removed the metric fitting, replaced it with the standard fitting and reflared it.
You could probably have a local hydraulic shop fab the hose up as well. I think there is a company, Gottashow, or something like that that makes braided hoses that would work.
Bobby
I'm running an early 70's Caddy 500ci engine with the stock power steering pump connected to my Toyota box. The big problem was connecting the pump with standard fittings to the box with metric fittings. The return is no problem as its low pressure. For the pressure hose I took the standard fitting from the Caddy hose and cut the toyo hose, removed the metric fitting, replaced it with the standard fitting and reflared it.
You could probably have a local hydraulic shop fab the hose up as well. I think there is a company, Gottashow, or something like that that makes braided hoses that would work.
Bobby
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