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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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96 PS help

Went to start my 96 PS this morning, and the WTS light stayed on for 2 to 3 sec.( it was inside 58 deg.) and it whounldn't start. tryed it 3 time and nothing, on the 4 time the altinator gauge, tac.,WTS light and All the gauge lights wounldn't work. found fuse 22 blown. Replaced fuse 22 and still nothing, turns over fine I have new batterys. I then looked at All the fuses and fuse 8 (I think) was blown, It was for the IDM, replaced it and unpluged the fuel heater. started up. drove it to my mecanic and he buzz tested it. #5 cycler had a weak signal or something ( can't remenber his exact words.) So I drove it home and ckecked the wiring to the injector with a ohm meter. All the wirer to the injecter are good. but I still have a miss and doesn't idea smooth. In the last month I've replaced the batterys, IPR, fuel heater, wiring harns for the fuel heater and IPR. Cleaned fuel bowl and screen. The oil is an off brand that I use in my big trucks. Could the IDM be bad, weak, or even could it be the oil?
 

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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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Well, with all the problems indicated I'll start with ..
What oil are you using?

7.3 diesels engines require oil with an anti foaming agent due to injectors are fired with a high pressure oil pump. Probably the best bang for the buck for oil is at Walmart and look for Mororcraft 15-40 for diesel engines. About $55 with new oil filter .. 5 quarts per jug and truck needs 14 quarts of oil with new filter.

Two seconds at 55 WTS light is about right. Not sure about the fuse's yet but sounds like you resolved the heater issue. I think #9 is the IDM but not sure but will bet back to you on that.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Engine Oil Requirements

The most common problem with Ford's 7.3 Direct Injection Turbo diesel is related to engine oil change interval and type of oil being used. It is critical for proper engine operation that the customer or technician servicing the vehicle check that the correct oil is being used. This engine uses a high-pressure oil pump to operate the fuel injectors.


Typical system pressures are 500 psi at idle, 1200 at 3300 rpm in neutral, and 3600 psi at full load acceleration. Oil for the PowerStroke requires an anti-foaming agent to prevent the oil from aerating, which would result in poor fuel injector spray patterns and reduced power. Depending on vehicle usage, the anti-foaming agents are depleted in 3000-5000 miles.


The only oil recommended for the PowerStroke by Ford is Motorcraft Super Duty 15W40, 10W30. Each of these has the proper additives in them for use in a diesel engine including the anti-foaming agents. The 15W40 is recommended for normal climates, the 10W30 for temperatures below 20 degrees Fahrenheit. For temperatures below -10 degrees, 5W-30 is recommended. There are other oils, however, that do meet all the requirements for use in the PowerStroke. The specifications the owner needs to look for on the label are the API rating of CF-4/SH or CG-4/SH or higher. Some other oils with the correct ratings are:

Penzoil Long-Life 15W40
Shell Rotella-T 15W40
Chevron Delo 400 15W40, 10W30
Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W40
Castrol Heavy-Duty 15W40
Valvoline All-Fleet Plus or Cummins Premium Blue:
Union 76 Guardol QLT 15W40
Wal-Mart's Tech 2000 Universal 15W40
Texaco Ursa Super Plus 15W40, 10W30
Quaker State FCI Universal 15W40, 10W30
Quaker State FCI HDX Plus 15W40
Kendall Super-D 3 15W40, 10W30
Kendall SHP Diesel 15W40

For those of you wishing to use synthetic oil, the only ones I have seen with the correct specs for the PowerStroke engine are:

Motorcraft Super All Season 0W-30 Semi Synthetic
Amsoil Series 3000 Synthetic 5W30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil
Amsoil 15W40 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel and Marine Oil
Amsoil 10W-40 and 20W-50 Synthetic High Performance Motor Oil
Amsoil 15W40 Semi-Synthetic Gasoline and Diesel Oil
Mobil Delvac 1 High-Performance Synthetic, Heavy Duty Diesel Engine Oil 5W40
Quaker State 4X4 15W40 Synthetic Blend
Shell Rotella SB (synthetic blend)
Royal Purple Synthetic 10W-30 and 15W-40 EO-L 5W-30, 10W-30, 20W50
Schaeffer's Supreme 7000 Synthetic Blend 15W-40

If these are unavailable you can use a multi-grade synthetic designated CF for use in diesel engines along with an anti-foaming additive. Some synthetic oils with this rating are:
Mobil 1
Castrol Syntec
Valvoline SynPower
Quaker State Syncron Ultra Performance

Recommended anti-foaming additives are Fleetrite with the Navistar P/N CH1824392 or Lubrizol 888. These are primarily used to counter the effects of silicone sealers on the anti-foaming agents in the oil or if the agents become depleted from use providing the oil is still serviceable and uncontaminated. An anti-foaming additive could also be used between oil changes if an oil-related poor running condition is suspected, especially on a long trip.

Under normal driving conditions the additive could extend the oil change interval to 6000 miles. For vehicles that are used for infrequent towing, using the additive at 3000 miles could extend the oil change interval to no longer than 5000 miles. Vehicles operated in dirty conditions, extreme weather conditions or constantly under heavy loads should stick to the 3000 mile service interval due to the other agents in the oil being depleted, and should only use the anti-foaming additive if performance problems occur between services.

The refill for the crankcase is 14 quarts for 94-97's and 15 quarts for 98.5/99's with filter change. Some early 95 and older engines were equipped with a 12-quart dipstick (Navistar P/N 1820068C1) and need to be filled to just over the word "FULL", or replaced with the correct part (Navistar P/N 1824405C1; Ford P/N F4TZ-6750-E for F-series; F5UZ-6750-A for Econoline). Some later dipstick tubes were not seated properly causing the crankcase to be over-filled in an attempt to bring the level up to the mark. The oil filter for the PowerStroke (Motorcraft P/N FL1995) is longer than that of the previous Ford/Navistar diesel, and the old-style filter should not be used. Due to its seal design, the oil filter should be hand tightened, then turned an additional quarter-turn--or torqued to 20ft/lbs--with the oil filter wrench to prevent leaking.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Thanks for all your help. Going to change the oil and see if that is my problem.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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Make sure the C Case is full , May want to clean the FPR screen ,& look for oil seeping from the ICP sensor ...
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Changed oil and no change, Still has a mis. and eradic idle and while driving down the road it is jerky, expecally when the cruise is on. Have allready cleaned FPR screen and no oil seeping out of the ICP sensor, Oil level in C Case was on full before and after oil change.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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does it jerk when u let off the pedel to slow down
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zmanz1
does it jerk when u let off the pedel to slow down
No it doesn't.
Well, today I removed both valve covers, and checked for power to all the injecters with a ohm meter, All where good, but found injecter #8 not firing (no oil out of the popit) unpluged it and no change at idle. So I beleive I found my problem. Going to replace #8 injecter and all the O ring on the other 7. Any advice on doing this. I do know to remove the oil out of the cyclinder before installing the injecters. Thanks
 

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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Still wonder y the fuse for the IDM blew.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Well i replaced one injecter and the o rings on the other 7. Now it idles better and I have oil coming out of all the injecter popits, I can unplug each injecter at the injecter and tell that each injecter is firing, but going down the road it still has a miss and at idle the RPM goes up and down 100 to 200 rpm. Any help? no codes
 
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Was the o ring obviously torn up on that bad injector? I doubt the injector was bad. It's usually o rings that cause that. Did you take apart the IPR and clean it and install new o rings on it yet? Often when the injector o rings fail, or bits of silicone get loose in the oil like from the oil pan and front cover the IPR always catches some. That's why I say take it apart. Just lay it out on a clean towel so it goes back together the same.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Well i replaced one injecter and the o rings on the other 7. Now it idles better and I have oil coming out of all the injecter popits, I can unplug each injecter at the injecter and tell that each injecter is firing, but going down the road it still has a miss and at idle the RPM goes up and down 100 to 200 rpm. Any help? no codes
You may still have air in the system...
 
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Around a mouth ago the truck just shut off going down the road and the IPR was replaced along with the fuel heater and wiring. all was fine after that until Mon. for this week. As for still have air in the system, how long does it take to get the air out(average)? I drove it around 10 miles. Air out of the oil or the fuel system? The O rings on all of the injecters look fine. replace any way, the one injecter that was replaced was for the electrcal part on top was on good. even took it to a place that rebuilds them to have it checked.
 

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It can take upwards of 50 miles or even quite a bit more to get the air out.
 
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Have you replaced the cps?
 
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