1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis Econolines. E150, E250, E350, E450 and E550

Did the Econoline ever come with a manual transmission?

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Old 12-28-2011, 08:07 PM
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Anyone interested in some rare pics?

1990 E150 M5OD 5 speed!
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1975 E100 3 on the tree
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1979 E150 4 speed (3 + OD)
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1981 E100 4 speed (3 +OD)
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And 1980 E150 4 speed (3 +OD) witch I now own this tranmission, shifter assembly, steering column/pedal assembly, RUG 4 speed tranny, and 300 straight 6 engine, all with just under 60k miles, all in tip top running shape, all bought for 100$! Guy was just about to scrap everything as it was all for sale for 3 months and no one wanted any of it! He said he rather see it go to someone who will put it back to use, rather than scraping good rare parts.



Heres what the little tranny looks like!
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My first Econoline was a 1977 E100 - straight-6/300 with 3 on-the-tree, from the factory. It took a lot of abuse. I towed a boat with it - had dropping that tranny and replacing the clutch down to a a science.
 
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Sorry for bump old thread

I bought 95 E350 passenger van with blown transmission. My thought why not swap 4 speed OD so it be reliable plus have granny gear.

I had idea why not manual linkage for clutch? Anyone remember 70's Ford truck they had NP435 with manual clutch that use linkage to disengage? That was stiff clutch pedal due broke bushing
 
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Originally Posted by Milwaukee1979F150
Sorry for bump old thread

I bought 95 E350 passenger van with blown transmission. My thought why not swap 4 speed OD so it be reliable plus have granny gear.

I had idea why not manual linkage for clutch? Anyone remember 70's Ford truck they had NP435 with manual clutch that use linkage to disengage? That was stiff clutch pedal due broke bushing
I've had a mechanical linkage van. Those things are a nightmare! For me Hydraulic is the only way to go. The van mechanical linkage is a little more complicated then the truck ones.

And be prepared to do some cutting to your inner wheel well/toe board if you expect to run a clutch pedal. The foot well is a little narrow on the 92+ vans.
 
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman75
I've had a mechanical linkage van. Those things are a nightmare! For me Hydraulic is the only way to go. The van mechanical linkage is a little more complicated then the truck ones.

And be prepared to do some cutting to your inner wheel well/toe board if you expect to run a clutch pedal. The foot well is a little narrow on the 92+ vans.

That what I thought. I don't mind cut this since it was $400 running with tran that won't go 40 mph. I would like fix and use for night drunk people that need ride.

I will look at van this week and research how to do it. I would love to have manual tran and able get 18 mpg instead 14-15 mpg with automatic E40D.

Had anyone running aftermarket clutch hydraulic system?
 
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Your not gonna get much better than an E4OD for mpg. Maybe in town, but on the highway, it'll be the same E4OD or standard.
 
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
Your not gonna get much better than an E4OD for mpg. Maybe in town, but on the highway, it'll be the same E4OD or standard.

Maybe but coast is one reason I want manual. I am sure I can get 18 MAX if gently. With Automatic Highest I could gotten 16 but it so sluggish in cities.

Automatic E40D is horrible sluggish expect my 2000 F350 which I put lower stall Torque convertor it help MUCH but I don't think gas 351W will like lower stall torque convertor.

I will let anyone know if I saw any improve mileage convert to 4 speed manual from automatic.
 
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What gears are you running?
 
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What gears are you running?

Uncle's 96 E350 had 3.54 and mpg I report are from this one.

New used 95 E350 had 3.54 no idea it only go 35 mph.
 
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Those are your typical highway gears, van's optimized to run as an empty gas can. It's probable that manual might give 1-2 better MPG, but the big elephant in the room is the computer. This is where it ends for everybody.
 
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Originally Posted by Henry10s
Those are your typical highway gears, van's optimized to run as an empty gas can. It's probable that manual might give 1-2 better MPG, but the big elephant in the room is the computer. This is where it ends for everybody.
I am doing a manual swap on a 5.8 ambulance bodied van. The van was, in fact, rather happy to run the manual transmission with the auto computer. Fuel economy went to crap. The auto computer wasn't getting what it wanted in terms of sensor feedback, so it was guessing. Right now I am adapting a Mass Air/Cali 5.8 manual truck computer to run the van. Its been a hell of a job, since I have essentially redone most of the wiring harness (SEFI vs Bank Injection) and had to repin the harness connectors to the ECU.

Its not worth it in the end. For the clutch pedal, I cut the entire wheel well out of the van, which isn't a big deal since it was converted to 4x4 and has ~6 inches of lift. I used a generic aftermarket clutch pedal.
 
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This thread brings back some memories.I've had 2 150's with standards.A 73? with a 3 on the tree(an old southwest bell truck) and an 82? with 4 speed on the floor.Bought that from a man in lorain ohio who got it right off the factory floor.Seems like a lifetime ago. I well remember having the tranny resting on my chest when I did the clutches.What I wouldn't give for a standard today.
 
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I had a blue 1976 Econoline with a "3 on the tree", 300 6 cylinder. (even replaced that transmission under a shade tree in the back yard) In 1984, I ordered a brown E-150 with 3 speed manual & overdrive (shifter on the floor). It had a 302 V8.

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Wow, that was quite a bit of reading to get here. Anyways, I will soon be getting my father's 1984 Ford E-150 Econoline with the 300 L6 and the 3 speed auto. The fuel economy is poor to say the least. It shifts into third at 25mph!
Yeah, so I would much rather have a stick, but I am not quite sure how much work that would be for this vehicle. It looks like getting access to the transmission would be pretty easy. I have been looking around locally for used manual transmission prices. They are not too bad. I could get a 3 speed manual for about $150. The big question is: Where do I get the clutch pedal? Also, I would need a clutch, master cylinder, and slave cylinder. And I'm assuming I would need a shifter and the linkage to go along with it. And would I need to swap out the computer on a model this old?

So basically I'm just wondering how much work is involved in auto to manual swap for this vehicle and if it's worth it. Just trying to get some ideas.

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Old 02-16-2013, 11:49 AM
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You need to find a standard E-series, if you can find one (good luck), your good to go, everything will swap over.
 


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