Radio removal - please HELP!
These tools just wouldn't go in without an excess amount of pressing and grunting on my part. There was no "click" to indicate the releasing of any latch. After pressing with all my might, I finally got to the end of the line with about 1" of each tool still protruding from their respective hole-pairs.
Then I discovered that the radio would NOT slide out. It was affixed to the surrounding dash plastic and all I could do by pulling real hard on these protruding clips was to nearly dislodge the surrounding plastic housing from the dashboard. Obviously, this "removal tool" was worthless for removing this radio, but, then, I discovered that these tools wouldn't come back out either. It took a crowbar and a lot of ugly smudges to the surrounding plastic (plus nicked fingers and hands), to finally get these two tools out and they looked like they had been mangled by steel jaws (all twisted and bent out of shape).
Of course, I am taking this tool back to Walmart for a refund (because it said it was OK for all fords models from 88 to 2004), but, alas, how do I get this radio out? It still plays, but, I want to upgrade and there is no point acquiring another radio until I can get this one loose and out!
What to do?
Jerry in Texas
push pin tools in, until gently resisted, about an inch
pull the tools gently towards the sides of the truck, outward while pulling the radio out.
There's not a latch to release, it's more of a tab that the tools push inward.
Go to Helminc.com and get a service manual.
Why are you taking the radio out?
push pin tools in, until gently resisted, about an inch
pull the tools gently towards the sides of the truck, outward while pulling the radio out.
There's not a latch to release, it's more of a tab that the tools push inward.
Go to Helminc.com and get a service manual.
Why are you taking the radio out?
These tools just wouldn't go in without an excess amount of pressing and grunting on my part. There was no "click" to indicate the releasing of any latch. After pressing with all my might, I finally got to the end of the line with about 1" of each tool still protruding from their respective hole-pairs.
Then I discovered that the radio would NOT slide out. It was affixed to the surrounding dash plastic and all I could do by pulling real hard on these protruding clips was to nearly dislodge the surrounding plastic housing from the dashboard. Obviously, this "removal tool" was worthless for removing this radio, but, then, I discovered that these tools wouldn't come back out either. It took a crowbar and a lot of ugly smudges to the surrounding plastic (plus nicked fingers and hands), to finally get these two tools out and they looked like they had been mangled by steel jaws (all twisted and bent out of shape).
Of course, I am taking this tool back to Walmart for a refund (because it said it was OK for all fords models from 88 to 2004), but, alas, how do I get this radio out? It still plays, but, I want to upgrade and there is no point acquiring another radio until I can get this one loose and out!
What to do?
Jerry in Texas
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I suspect now that this walmart tool is the problem, because it didn't do as you all describe here, nor as described in its own instructions.
First, the u-prongs DID NOT go into the two holes easily - they got stuck before I could even get 1/4 " inside. I suspect they are the wrong size and wouldn't stay parallel with the two holes. So I had to apply extra force right from the beginning, and, there was no way to tell when to stop forcing them inwards.
Just now, after readying FordMstrtech's post, I bent one of the tools so that I could insert one end alone, and I tested each of the four holes just to see what one can feel by inserting a rod into those holes. First, using only one prong, it DID go in nice and smooth but it hit a metal-feeling barrier after about only one inch inwards. It was like pushing agains a flat surface, at right angles to the prong. I tried this will all four holes and got the same result - one inch inward and up against a flat metal-feeling surface. I then jiggled the single prong angling the portion sticking out towards the nearest door, and I could feel the other end sliding along that flat surface, but, I couldn't detect ANYTHIING moving like a tab or a latch or anything - it that motion was supposed to release some hook or latch it could only have done it without making any kind of detectable noise nor feeling from just holding the outside of the prong. It is like a blind man trying to solve a jigsaw puzzle, I can't tell what I am trying to do inside there.
But, anyway, I couldn't do this with all 4 holes simultaneously becuase these prongs are so bent out of shape now that woudn't work even if they were the right ones to begin with, which I am convicned they ARE NOT. They are a bit too wide for the holes they are supposed to slide into gently. So, tomorrow, I'll go looking for a better pair of tools that are made specifically for these holes - that is, a pair of u-clips that measure the exact same separation between the prongs as these two holes, AND are strictly parallel to begin with. That might work. Maybe the jiggling motion did actualy move some kind of hidden tab but you just can't feel it being moved.
One other thing, suppose the radio is a bit too snug, even with the tabs unlatched, and requires some extra outward force to get it moving along the rails - how can one apply any kind of extra force without BENDING the u-clips which are frail and fragile to begin with? This seems like a very stupid design for allowing a radio to be removed - after a radio has been in place for a few years, the likelyhood it will slide out effortlessly once the tabs are depressed is wishful thinking - metal pieces touching each other over the years usually require a bit of a kick to break loose after being in static contact for so long.
I'll give it another go tomorrow if I can find a better-looking tool.
I am tired using a small transmitter to hear my mp3's, and I also would like to play CD's occassionally, so that is why I am upgrading.
Jerry in Texas
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Anyway, I took pictures and I am now looking for a radio that I HOPE will just plug right in (maybe I am dreaming on this one). For what it is worth, the numbers on it are:
f77f-19b131-aa
It has TWO plugs in the back so I imagine I'll have to do some wire rigging unless I find a radio that also needs these exact two plugs (one for the speaker and another for power, memory, etc.).
I wish I knew how to post photos, I could show you what this nifty little radio looks like. It works fine as a radio, but I'd sure like to have a CD player and also an aux plug for my mp3 players.
Thanks for all your input.
Jerry in Texas



