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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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leaking pipes?

I took my truck to the local shop that does our car work. Very trustworthy people done business with them for years. I was having tire wear an knocking noises and they said I needed new ball joints and shocks. We told them give the rest of the truck a look over too and they said I have two pipes leaking that go to the turbo I was told they would need to be replaced. What should I do?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Do you mean the up-pipes (pipes coming from the exhaust manifolds to the turbo charger)?

This is the rear view of the engine (without the tranny). Since you said "pipes", this is probably what he meant.

The best fix is to use the bellowed up-pipes. Fix it and forget it.

You can also replace the pipe and put doughnuts in them.

Threads on this site about both remedies.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Bobby is right, and that is a great pic as well.

Go with a set of bellowed up-pipes and you will be set for life. Here is the cheapest place to get them as well...

Riffraff Diesel: IH Bellowed Up-pipe Kit
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Fellas i think thats it. They said leaking and i know my intercooler tubes arent so that must be it.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks $400 being the cheapest is wicked expensive for what it is?
Is there anything special about them?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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I dont know their exact job but i do know that they make your turbo work which makes my truck go fast
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks $400 being the cheapest is wicked expensive for what it is?
Is there anything special about them?
I guess you could always machine your existing Y collector, then weld bellows to your existing up pipes and fabricate a non-gasketed flange to mate up to your machined collector for a DIY version. Of course you'll likely need to remove the engine to make sure you get the proper tolerances and clearances while fabbing this stuff up.

If you don't like the price, you can always just replace the donut gaskets in the up pipes for just a few dollars plus your own labor, but the new donuts will leak again at some point in the future. If you don't mind the labor, you can replace a whole lot of donut gaskets for what the bellowed up pipes cost. If you're paying for the labor, it catches up quick.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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It ain't cheap, but this is one fix you DON'T want to do twice. I just got through replacing mine, and it wasn't fun at all. But, I know I won't have to ever worry about them leaking again.

I rented a skid loader and a mini excavator to do some work on my brother in law's farm. I knew they had been leaking, but had been able to still tow in my lower tow tune, as long as keeping any eye on the egt's. well, it got to the point that I couldn't give any throttle input without billowing smoke, and nearly pegging the egt gauge. I couldn't make more than 5lbs boost either. Limped into the farm, popped the hood, and everything (literally) was totally black with soot. Smoke even came into the dash vents once. I thought I had totally fubarred something. Eight cans of brake clean later, and I could finally make out things to see that the damn nut on the v-band clamp on the turbo collector had come off. basically the clamp was flopping loose, and thus most of the exhaust drive pressure was escaping directly out that connection. I had already ordered new up pipes from clay, and swapped them out. the pipes literally fell out of the collector when disassembling. I have a totally different truck now. I've had mine for 5 years, and I've never had this much throttle response, EVER. In 80E, a short stab of the throttle will INSTANTLY net 25-28 lbs boost. I'm in love with my truck now, LOL.

Short story, yep, well worth 400 bucks.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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How much are oem uppies compared to the bellowed ones? The guys at the place are doing it for me but idk what ones theyre putting on?
 
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I can pull nearly 20 psi on stock tune with my bellowed pipes and 4.88 rear end.
Engine rpm really makes a difference.
That won't ever happen with the old donut style pipes.
 
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Doughnuts are a few bucks and a lot of labor, Bellowed are over 400.00!! and a lot of labor.
 
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How much are oem uppies compared to the bellowed ones? The guys at the place are doing it for me but idk what ones theyre putting on?

If you keep the OEM pipes you don't have to replace them. You only have to replace the donut gasket between the pipe and collector on the back of the turbo. The expensive part is you have to pull the turbo, then fight getting everything tightened back up with the new gaskets since the transmission is in the way, especially on the passenger side. Parts are cheap, labor is expensive.

The reason the bellowed up pipes are popular is because you'll never have to do it again.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Does the dealer carry bellowed? cause the guy told me he was checking for prices with them
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 10:36 PM
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Does the dealer carry bellowed? cause the guy told me he was checking for prices with them
Nope, only the international dealer but wait till you see those prices
 
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x4 on the bellowed uppies. If cost does not hold you back, that is The Fix. Makes no sense at all to put a new set of OEM pipes on at stealership prices.

When I had to replace mine last June I was short of funds and went with chebby donuts. $6 later I was good to go. Now I can still make 30 psi on the 120R tune but I can already see the soot stains growing... next time, bellowed for sure!
 
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