Edge kit installed..Bump steer now
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Installed the 3" Edge kit and 4" rear Ford blocks turned out great.
Took about 8 hours, two of which was R&R of the bumper( Warn hidden winch). Used the adjustable track bar from Edge. The truck looks great and the Edge products are heavyduty and fit perfect. Noticed I now have a little bump steer. Could this be due to the track bar installation or adjustment? I adjusted it with the truck on the ground, no preload on the bar.
Took about 8 hours, two of which was R&R of the bumper( Warn hidden winch). Used the adjustable track bar from Edge. The truck looks great and the Edge products are heavyduty and fit perfect. Noticed I now have a little bump steer. Could this be due to the track bar installation or adjustment? I adjusted it with the truck on the ground, no preload on the bar.
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Your best bet will be to take it and get a 4 wheel alignment done. The feel of more bump steer just might be that the front end was not centered when you installed the pan rod bar. A good Idea is to remove the pan-rod bar and back the truck up on a flate surface, Then pull it forward about 8 feet and install the pan-rod bar. This will help to center the fron Diff. Bump steer is a problem with any Leaf spring/Pan-rod bar style suspension. Anytime your tierod is Longer then your pan-rod bar you will see bump steer. The problem is you now have more wheel travel and better shock so the bump steer feeling at the wheel is modified. Hope that helps.
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Domenic,
Could you post more details about your lift? --It sounds like you installed it yourself...
Is your truck level now? Is the total lift 4"? Did you choose to do the Ford 4" blocks because of the bump stops (and what are the part #s?) Did you have to shim the drive shaft carrier bearing? Did you get extended break lines? What shocks did you decide on? Any other options you added beyond the adjustable track bar? Drop pitman arm?
What did the project set you back, all in?
etc.
Thanks!
Could you post more details about your lift? --It sounds like you installed it yourself...
Is your truck level now? Is the total lift 4"? Did you choose to do the Ford 4" blocks because of the bump stops (and what are the part #s?) Did you have to shim the drive shaft carrier bearing? Did you get extended break lines? What shocks did you decide on? Any other options you added beyond the adjustable track bar? Drop pitman arm?
What did the project set you back, all in?
etc.
Thanks!
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I bought the kit from fox, less shocks for 465, adjustable track bar
254, u-bolts 45, rear blocks from ford for 30 each. The hardest part was breaking loose the track bar mounting bolts. Had to disconnect the drag link to gain access to the axle mount. Heated the nuts and used a cheater bar on the breaker bar (30mm) Also with my welded in 4" down pipe I had to disconnect it from the turbo and modify it to clear the right upper shackle bolt (hammer).
The parts fit perfect, which is a great help. I would highly recommend the kit, if fact a friend is ordering his as we speak, he's removing his add a leaf kit from his 350, says he can't stand the ride anymore..Good luck
ps... the part number varies for the blocks depending on the wb of the vehicle. Just ask for 350 blocks and your wb. I found the part numbers doing a search on dieselstop.com
I used the stock pitman arm, stabilizer bar links, brake hoses and shocks. I may buy longer shocks, but with longer shocks I will need brake hoses...
254, u-bolts 45, rear blocks from ford for 30 each. The hardest part was breaking loose the track bar mounting bolts. Had to disconnect the drag link to gain access to the axle mount. Heated the nuts and used a cheater bar on the breaker bar (30mm) Also with my welded in 4" down pipe I had to disconnect it from the turbo and modify it to clear the right upper shackle bolt (hammer).
The parts fit perfect, which is a great help. I would highly recommend the kit, if fact a friend is ordering his as we speak, he's removing his add a leaf kit from his 350, says he can't stand the ride anymore..Good luck
ps... the part number varies for the blocks depending on the wb of the vehicle. Just ask for 350 blocks and your wb. I found the part numbers doing a search on dieselstop.com
I used the stock pitman arm, stabilizer bar links, brake hoses and shocks. I may buy longer shocks, but with longer shocks I will need brake hoses...
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I have A 6' kit with new shocks, pitman arm, track bar & leaf springs and did not have to chang the brake lines. I order new braided brake lines but did not need them. Will probably install them when I replace the brakes. Just for looks
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I just noticed that with the shock disconnected the axle would droop enough that the brake line would be tight, if not for the floor jack stopping the axle downward travel, line breakage certain. Maybe your front springs limit the travel, who knows
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When I installed the lift I had to bend the tab that holds the brake line down some to get the springs in. The springs have 10 leafs and weigh 108lbs each Thats when I order the new brake lines. after I finished with the lift and drove it and checked the lines is when I realized that there is plenty of travel and did not need to replace brake lines.
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You do not Need any Extended Brake lines with a 3" EDGE kit. You will Never hurt your factory stock lines in the stock location. Wont happen...Dont need em. You are fine.
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Donahoe.
Is the pan rod what attaches to the track bar bracket?
I thought the pins on the leaf springs centered the front end.
Whats the deal with alignment, I had some tell me I should have the alignment done and others that say it is not necessary.
Is the pan rod what attaches to the track bar bracket?
I thought the pins on the leaf springs centered the front end.
Whats the deal with alignment, I had some tell me I should have the alignment done and others that say it is not necessary.
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Originally posted by Bobmurp1
Donahoe.
Is the pan rod what attaches to the track bar bracket?
I thought the pins on the leaf springs centered the front end.
Whats the deal with alignment, I had some tell me I should have the alignment done and others that say it is not necessary.
Donahoe.
Is the pan rod what attaches to the track bar bracket?
I thought the pins on the leaf springs centered the front end.
Whats the deal with alignment, I had some tell me I should have the alignment done and others that say it is not necessary.
I'm not Donahoe, but:
The "pan rod" or "panhard bar", or Track Bar is for lateral locating of the axle, which is side to side movement, it does really nothing with front to back movement, like you said, the pins do that.
Really, the only thing affected by a off the shelf lift, 8" and under, would be your drag link positioning , so a alingment is really not needed, only the adjustment of the drag link to center your steering wheel.
Assuming that a drop pitman arm is being used.
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Yetti what do you think of an adjustable trackbar. Is it worth getting?
I have A 6" kit by Full Traction suspention with A droped pitman arm and trackbar bracket.
I have A 6" kit by Full Traction suspention with A droped pitman arm and trackbar bracket.
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IMO, no, not necessary for a 6" as long as you have the drop track bar bracket.
I would say for an 8" it would be marginal any thing over, then yes.
Now on the "cool" factor, I would say sure.
I would say for an 8" it would be marginal any thing over, then yes.
Now on the "cool" factor, I would say sure.
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Yeti hit the nail on the head......We do Highly recomend running the adjustable pan-rod bar with our 3" system only becuse we do not change the pan-rod brecket with that system so it tend to pull the front end over to the drivers side about 3/4" of an inch. I have been bugging my Ford Engineer buddies to make the stock panrod bar adjustable. But they dont want to listen...... Dumb engineers.
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Thats the reason I asked because it looks like the front end is more to the drivers side.
I did install A new track/pan bracket, The bracket comes with 3 holes 1 for A 4" lift 1 for A 6" lift And 1 for the 8" kit. When I installed the kit the track bar went right into the 8" hole but the steering wheel was 180 degrees out. I called the company and they said it is sopposed to go in the middle hole so I worked hard and got it in that hole. The steering wheel wasnt as for off after that.
I did install A new track/pan bracket, The bracket comes with 3 holes 1 for A 4" lift 1 for A 6" lift And 1 for the 8" kit. When I installed the kit the track bar went right into the 8" hole but the steering wheel was 180 degrees out. I called the company and they said it is sopposed to go in the middle hole so I worked hard and got it in that hole. The steering wheel wasnt as for off after that.
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