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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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high amp alternator

on my Early Bronco i have an alternator of a 79 lincoln i believe. it puts out alot higher amps than stock. thinking of doing it on my 77 crew cab, anyone done this or know of another cheap alternative.

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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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do a search of "3G" up grade. it is a cheap and easy up grade.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Search for 3G swap.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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I put a 100 amp off a 83 ltd on mine.. uses the same voltage regulator, and just have to change how the stator and field hook up.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Only concern I can think of upgrading to high amp alternators is keep the fuse link to fuse panel the same size as stock. Extra load such as winch, welder, driving lights, fans etc should come off the alternator feed to batt and fused seperatly.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Extra load such as winch, welder, driving lights, fans etc should come off the alternator feed to batt and fused seperatly.
I disagree... I think they should be wired to come off the alternator's output terminal. When aftermarket accessories are wired to the battery charge wire (i.e. the battery side of the solenoid) they reduce the available current available to charge the battery long before the alternator is at its maximum output. All that power is either coming through the relatively small fusible link (about 14 gauge I think), or discharging the battery. Meanwhile, the voltage regulator is on the other end of the charge wire, and doesn't see all the voltage drop that occurs when a large current flows over a long, thin fusible link. Also, if you are using the factory ammeter, anything wired to the solenoid will cause the ammeter to falsely indicate a positive current flow to the battery, when in fact the battery may even be discharging if the load is great enough. I have a big electric fuel pump as well as a Lincoln MK-VIII fan wired up through a fuse block connected directly to the alternator output terminal, and the stock 60A alternator is able to keep up with them wired this way.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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I disagree... I think they should be wired to come off the alternator's output terminal. When aftermarket accessories are wired to the battery charge wire (i.e. the battery side of the solenoid) they reduce the available current available to charge the battery long before the alternator is at its maximum output. All that power is either coming through the relatively small fusible link (about 14 gauge I think), or discharging the battery. Meanwhile, the voltage regulator is on the other end of the charge wire, and doesn't see all the voltage drop that occurs when a large current flows over a long, thin fusible link. Also, if you are using the factory ammeter, anything wired to the solenoid will cause the ammeter to falsely indicate a positive current flow to the battery, when in fact the battery may even be discharging if the load is great enough. I have a big electric fuel pump as well as a Lincoln MK-VIII fan wired up through a fuse block connected directly to the alternator output terminal, and the stock 60A alternator is able to keep up with them wired this way.
I agree with your disagreement!
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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I disagree... I think they should be wired to come off the alternator's output terminal. When aftermarket accessories are wired to the battery charge wire (i.e. the battery side of the solenoid) they reduce the available current available to charge the battery long before the alternator is at its maximum output. All that power is either coming through the relatively small fusible link (about 14 gauge I think), or discharging the battery. Meanwhile, the voltage regulator is on the other end of the charge wire, and doesn't see all the voltage drop that occurs when a large current flows over a long, thin fusible link. Also, if you are using the factory ammeter, anything wired to the solenoid will cause the ammeter to falsely indicate a positive current flow to the battery, when in fact the battery may even be discharging if the load is great enough. I have a big electric fuel pump as well as a Lincoln MK-VIII fan wired up through a fuse block connected directly to the alternator output terminal, and the stock 60A alternator is able to keep up with them wired this way.
Exactly. Point I was making is you shouldn't connect anything high load to the stock wiring, just because you now have a larger alternator. Replacing say a 40amp fuse link to fuse panel with a 100amp creates the potential to burn the wire before blowing the fuse link. The ampmeter circuit also is not designed the increased load. The alternator output wire is usually tied to the solenoid, but it is also the same connection as the pos batt cable. Hope that makes sense, sometimes I'm not getting my point across. Actually, I do away with the ampmeter and install a voltmeter.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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I'm gonna continue this Hijacking, by saying I'm confused. It sounds like both of you are saying the same thing not disagreeing.

Also, if I'm understanding you correctly you're saying the main power wire to feed 12 volts to my Subwoofer Amp should be hooked to the back of the alternator and not the positive post of the battery? I've never heard that.

Oh I have the 3g upgrade on my truck and it's great. Replaced the fusible link with an 80 amp wafer fuse, and I have a 175 amp mini MIDI on the main BAT wire.

EDIT: Ah Ha I was confused, cause ya'll were saying the same thing. LOL
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Also, if I'm understanding you correctly you're saying the main power wire to feed 12 volts to my Subwoofer Amp should be hooked to the back of the alternator and not the positive post of the battery? I've never heard that.
If you want your factory ammeter to work properly you will. There are some other reasons too, but for you it's probably a moot point. If you have the 3g upgrade you either didn't have a factory ammeter or it probably doesn't work now anyway.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Ok, yea I have an aftermarket voltmeter and the voltmeter in the dash cluster.
 
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