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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Poor/low idle. Stalling. ???

2001 F350 5.4L 138,xxx
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When I go to turn the motor over wether it's 10 degrees out for 70, the motor will start as normal then instantly sputter out.

Recently I have been starting the truck with a little throttle and just ultimately driving two footed (hate it), but I do not have much of a choice. At a stop light, the truck with drop down to 4-500 rpm and I am definitely not comfortable with that.

The motor is not missing at high or low RPMs.

I just put a new IAC on it today thinking that would help out atleast a little judging by past posts. I disconnected the battery while doing this also to possibly reset the computer, as stated in previous posts.

I also checked for vaccuum leaks and that came up negative.

Motor is not throwing any codes.

Any other ideas?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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You may try checking/cleaning the MAF (mass air flow sensor).
but i would think the code reader would find this.
other items you could check is fuel filter clog or fuel pressure.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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I had this issue recently. Rather than throwing parts at it, I took to an independant mechanic. They ended up cleaning the throttle body, and injectors and putting on a new fuel filter (although they said a fuel filter would NOT cause the issue--> it was time for a new one). They said nothing else was wrong with it. It seemed to work, but now it idles a little high: 800-900rpm.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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I will clean off the MAF sensor tomorrow while I am trying to get away from the in-laws, lol.

I don't really want to tear into my throttle body but it's sounding like I am gonna have to. I just put a new fuel filter in a couple months ago so I am guessing it's not that. But you never know with gas companies these days.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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In my 1st post, I meant to say "fuel filter would NOT cause the issue" . I have since made the change. Sorry 'bout that.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Cleaning the throttle body isn't a hard job at all bud, should be done every now and then just to keep it spiffy. I've done mine on my car twice, and once on the truck when I brought it home.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Also, if you are unaware of it the MAF is a delicate item, use only MAF or electrical contact cleaner (no petroleum based cleaners).
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 07:16 AM
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Well I tried a new MAF sensor yesterday and no luck there either. Gonna tear into the TB this weekend I guess and see what I can dig up from there.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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i had the same symptoms on a 4.0 OHC Explorer, it was a vacuum leak at the PCV elbow. i know it's a different engine but it still sounds like it could be a vacuum leak.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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I will definitely look into it. Thanks for the response.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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if you take starting fluid and spray it around the top of the engine while it's running, it will elevate the idle and help find the location if there is a vacuum leak.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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I had this problem with an '01 5.4, I just sprayed out the idle air control valve with some throttle body spray and its all good now. You may do the same and fix it or replace it. Before you do, get it idling rough, tap the solenoid with a hammer and see if it levels out. Thats how you can check if it is bad.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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I had it off already once, cleaned it all out, made sure the spring in there was moving freely. Then I decided to just put a brand new one on.

I was hoping that would be the problem because all the symptoms point that way but no luck.

If I can't find a vaccum leak I am not sure what to do from there.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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If you can't find a vacuum leak it is likely your intake manifold gasket, just fixed my moms Escape with a rough idle by replacing the intake manifold gasket. But hers was silicone and the 5.4 uses a composite which is much more durable. But still could be bad and it would be a cheap fix.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Well here's the million dollar question of the day.. Is it possible for carb cleaner to freeze? I worked on my IAC and MAF sensor while it was a solid 20* outside. Made a three hour drive yesterday back to college and now the girl is running just like it should. Idles at 900ish as it should without any stalling at all.

The only thing I can possibly think of maybe I had some cleaner in the IAC still and it finally burnt it all out or just took a good running to get it loosened up.
 
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