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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Distributor with limited rotation.

So, I've got a 1977 F150 4x4 with a 351M/400 engine. Stock ignition system. I'm trying to advance the timing (turning the distributor clockwise) but it rotates a little and then stops and wont turn any further. I can retard it until the engine wants to die but it just wont advance as far as I would like. I have had the truck for about 2 months. It sounds like it may have a cam in it by the sound of it but I'm not taking things apart right now to find out. Any suggestions?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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Is it bumping against something on the engine,like the thermostate housing ? If so,lift up and reset it back ,counter clock wise, one gear tooth. Don't go to far or you will have the same problem the other way.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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almost sounds like you may be a tooth off it it can retard by not advance
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jim collins
Is it bumping against something on the engine,like the thermostate housing ? If so,lift up and reset it back ,counter clock wise, one gear tooth. Don't go to far or you will have the same problem the other way.
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almost sounds like you may be a tooth off it it can retard by not advance
No...I doubt it's either of those. I mean, it can happen, quite frequently in fact, but I don't think that's the case here. I think what's going on is that the base of the distributor is partially seized by coked (varnished) oil. The best remedy I know of is to try to remove the distributor, but use WD-40 or lightweight motor oil liberally, and move it back and forth in small increments. "Delicate" is a word that comes to mind...

And trust me...there is a cam in there.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fairlane68
No...I doubt it's either of those. I mean, it can happen, quite frequently in fact, but I don't think that's the case here. I think what's going on is that the base of the distributor is partially seized by coked (varnished) oil. The best remedy I know of is to try to remove the distributor, but use WD-40 or lightweight motor oil liberally, and move it back and forth in small increments. "Delicate" is a word that comes to mind...

And trust me...there is a cam in there.
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You could be right, but thats the reason i ask him if he could see it bumping against the thermostat housing. If he could then that may be the problem. I just never made it real clear as to what i was asking him i guess. yeah ,i think he will find a cam too ,if not ,that will be interesting.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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Mine was very tight when trying to move it. It eventually gave but after sitting for as long as it had, I wasn't surprised it was tight.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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I will check it out tonight. It could be as simple as the vacuum advance hitting the thermostat housing. If it is a "tooth off", how does that happen? Is the distributor installed when the engine is at TDC? I think the timing line on the balancer is also off. I have to retard the engine until it dies before coming within 30 degrees of where it needs to be. Do you think this and the distributor are related issues?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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So ... the distributer is not hitting anything on it's rotation ...
 
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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Well i'm at lose now if its not hitting anything. Just a wild guess,could the timing chain be off one tooth ?
 
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