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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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HELP..No Spark......Problem Solved!!!!

Hi guys, new to this forum..Hello everyone..
I have a 1984 F150, 4.9 straight 6, 4 spd
Suddenly quit during heavy rain in my driveway.
Tried starting fluid into carb to determine if fuel or spark problem..
Replaced:
Pickup Coil...twice brand new
Ignition Control Module...distributor mounted...twice brand new
Primary Coil
Cap, Rotor, Wires, Plugs
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I have 12V at Primary Coil
Checked " spout " signal between Ignition Control Module and Powertrain Control Module..3.6Vac
Motor cranks strong...Just NO spark...
I do not know what to do next...
ANY suggestions????
Thanks...Tom
 
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Make sure the distributor is turning when you crank
 
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bashby
Make sure the distributor is turning when you crank
Yes, the distributor is turning...Thanks for your input..Tom
 
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Did you check for spark at the coil wire or just assume it has no spark because it wont run on stating fluid?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bashby
Did you check for spark at the coil wire or just assume it has no spark because it wont run on stating fluid?
Pulled #1 plug, grounded to block while cranking engine..
Also hooked up known good timing light to #1 plug (re-installed) while cranking..light never comes on...never picking up spark through magnetic pickup...
 
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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check it at the coil just to be sure.
 
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It could be a bad ecm, I was just looking at the wiring diagram at Autozone.com (all you have to do is register for free to get them) other than a bad connection somewhere thats all that's left.
 
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Originally Posted by bashby
It could be a bad ecm, I was just looking at the wiring diagram at Autozone.com (all you have to do is register for free to get them) other than a bad connection somewhere thats all that's left.
Hi, Thanks for your continued interest..Just printed diagram from auto-zone..NOTE: mine is the TFI-IV system..not the Duraspark..
I do not see "ECM"
It's got to be the onboard computer....EEC-IV Module, or connection somewhere I have missed..
Keep you informed on progress....Tom
 
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For those interested, Started checking grounds under the hood, moving inspecting wiring harness..very old and fragile, some wires with insulation breaking apart..went to the EEC-IV computer module under the dash, found only partial power to the 60 pin connector. Missing 12V on pins 37, 57. This comes from the EEC Power Relay. Pulled what I think is the EEC Power Relay, made a jumper to short, simulate contacts closed..Hit the key..Started Immediately!!!!!!!Whooo HOOO. Now the weird part...pulled the jumper off, Truck continued to run..maybe a little less RPM..Re-started the truck with Relay OUT??? Put Relay back in...ALL OK...Anyway Truck is now running and I believe I have isolated the problem to the EEC Power Relay or associated connector, wires..
Thanks to all who tried to Help me...Tom..
 
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