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Only have the consumer to blame. Remember the whole Ford/Firestone fiasco several years ago? As a result, TPMS became a government mandated device. Since the consumer couldn't be trusted to keep the tires at the correct PSI level, they had to step in and make it idiot proof.
Just wait until all vehicles are equipped with speed and proximity sensors that won't allow you to exceed the speed of the vehicles around you.
Only have the consumer to blame. Remember the whole Ford/Firestone fiasco several years ago? As a result, TPMS became a government mandated device. Since the consumer couldn't be trusted to keep the tires at the correct PSI level, they had to step in and make it idiot proof.
Just wait until all vehicles are equipped with speed and proximity sensors that won't allow you to exceed the speed of the vehicles around you.
The problem is that they did not make it idiot proof. Idiot proof in my mind is something like stepping on the brake to engage the automatic transmission into gear. At best, this is like all of the rest of the warning devices; "idiot, your door is ajar', "idiot, put on your seat belt" and my favorite "idiot, you need to open the manual to figure out what that light in the cluster means".
Only have the consumer to blame. Remember the whole Ford/Firestone fiasco several years ago? As a result, TPMS became a government mandated device. Since the consumer couldn't be trusted to keep the tires at the correct PSI level, they had to step in and make it idiot proof.
The problem there is most of the time the consumer wasn't really to blame. Ford had 26 psi on the door jamb sticker and if you went to a quick lube place, that's what they inflated your tires to. I would take my Explorer in for an oil change with 35 psi in the tires and come out with 26 psi every time. I even had them put a note in the system that I prefered 35 psi and still most times I had to put air back into the tires.
Their policy was to inflate the tires according to the door sticker. Until Ford issued new door stickers as a recall, it was their fault that most Explorer tires were underinflated.
Someone please help me make sense of the door sticker only mentality. Won't a reasonable person understand that the door sticker is only for the tires that came from the factory? Wouldn't a reasonable person (ie, dealership service department) take a look at the currently installed tire sidewall and make adjustments accordingly? Is that just too much to ask? Please, my head is about to explode... Where is the exploding head emoticon? Where is the emoticon of someone ripping their hair out? Hmmm... maybe I'll do a video of that...
I can tell you that when I am tooling around at 100+ in my Vette on a closed course and the tire low pressure warning comes on, I certainly am going to listen. Going around at 100 mph on run flats designed for 50, catches my attention!
I pay pretty close attention to tire pressure also. I've got a Honda CBR 600RR motorcycle that is a dedicated track only bike and there are several tracks that I go to that I'm seeing between 150 and 160 MPH on the straights, and 90+ in some of the corners with a knee down on the deck, so proper tire pressure is paramount, especially in those situations.
Someone please help me make sense of the door sticker only mentality. Won't a reasonable person understand that the door sticker is only for the tires that came from the factory? Wouldn't a reasonable person (ie, dealership service department) take a look at the currently installed tire sidewall and make adjustments accordingly? Is that just too much to ask? Please, my head is about to explode... Where is the exploding head emoticon? Where is the emoticon of someone ripping their hair out? Hmmm... maybe I'll do a video of that...
I would love to see that video! I agree with your comments. The problem in today's society fewer and fewer people are taking the time to read anything. When you buy a piece of electronic gear you will find a "quick start" guide. Working in this industry, it was introduced because way too many people expect stuff to be plug and play. The quick start guides were created to lower our warranty costs -- not make it easier to use our products. A good number of people just don't take the time to read...
Kind of reminds me when I asked my daughter if she was checking the oil in her car (something I told her to do) and her answer was "isn't there a light that is supposed to come on to tell me to add oil".
Someone please help me make sense of the door sticker only mentality. Won't a reasonable person understand that the door sticker is only for the tires that came from the factory? Wouldn't a reasonable person (ie, dealership service department) take a look at the currently installed tire sidewall and make adjustments accordingly? Is that just too much to ask? Please, my head is about to explode... Where is the exploding head emoticon? Where is the emoticon of someone ripping their hair out? Hmmm... maybe I'll do a video of that...
Yea - I went to Discount tire yesterday to get aftermarket tires rotated.. After they finished the job the kid reported to me that they rotated /balanced & filled tires to the door sticker requirements... I looked at him & said "80psi?" - I think it was 70/80 but anyway I told him to check the pressure max on the sidewall - The max cold is 65 on the BFG Mud terrrains! So they had to let some out... So much for them hiring tire experts...
It's not just tire specialists. I took my truck to the dealer 2 weeks ago for an oil change and replacement of the blend doors, or whatever, for the air conditioning. I noticed my TPMS light was off as I was driving home and called back while I was driving to ask if they change the air pressure or by chance reset the threshold. And if they did change the pressure were they aware that the tires were 50PSI max. The response I got back was, "they are trained to look at the Max PSI rating of the tires always." Well, when I got home and checked the pressure, I found 80 PSI on all 4 corners.
So it's not just tire experts you have to watch out for.
What this tells me though is the TPMS only monitors for low pressure, not over inflation. So beware.
Now that's thinking... Then they could follow the door sticker only mentality and get it right at the same time. I think you're on to something. Seriously. I'm making a label right now.
Never had a TPMS problem until today. Was on a 300 mile trip with my RV and the TPMS fault showed on the screen 3 times with a picture of a tire in the corner. Pressed OK, the tire picture blinked awhile then became steady and finally went away. First time it happened, pulled into parking lot, pulled out the gauge, checked all the tires and of course they were inflated upward because I've been driving awhile. I remembered Epic's post (thanks Epic) and went straight to the dealer and he adjusted the lower psi at 45. He said their was no adjustment for high pressure. Can't explain it, but it doesn't come on anymore. BTW, he said he could eliminate it altogether with no adverse problems because my truck was over a certain GVW. I didn't think that was a good idea, so we just set it low. He let me watch using the computer, really cool showing how everything works.
If I do what it says in the book to train the sensors with a lower tire pressure will that
work or is that just to train them to the posted pressure??? Does any body know.