65 Transmission Code
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65 Transmission Code
My 65 F 100 Custom cab has a four speed manual, With Transmission code N on VIN. Can anyone tell me what transmission this is and have a exploded view of it?
What can I do to add overdrive? I travel a lot on the hwy and could use it!
What can I do to add overdrive? I travel a lot on the hwy and could use it!
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You have been mis-informed (I noticed where and corrected it).
The TRANS code is listed separately on the Warranty Plate, it's not located within the VIN.
Two 4 speeds were used in 1965 F100's:
F = Borg Warner T-18 4 Speed Manual Transmission.
N = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmisson.
Both are illustrated in the 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog, available on a CD from hipoparts.com for 22 bucks.
The TRANS code is listed separately on the Warranty Plate, it's not located within the VIN.
Two 4 speeds were used in 1965 F100's:
F = Borg Warner T-18 4 Speed Manual Transmission.
N = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmisson.
Both are illustrated in the 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog, available on a CD from hipoparts.com for 22 bucks.
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Have the 3sp w/ O.D. in the 65 390 and getting around 11-12 mpg. Wonder if an auto tranny would improve mpg, perhaps more knowledgeable member can provide input. Picked up a C6 few yrs ago but have not gotten around to installing, seems like the swap would be labor intensive. Not sure if going to Electronic Ign., which is a relatively easy swap, improved mpg, but if nothing else don't have to freeze my backside off trying to get it started on a cold winter morning. Sorry, not much help!
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You're only getting 11-12 MPG? This has to be city MPG. There's really no way to improve city MPG on these brick outhouse shaped trucks, unless you coast along with the engine off!
My '65 came with the T-85N overdrive, the average city MPG was 8-12. On the highway, it was a different story. Highway MPG usually averaged 18-24.
'Course I drive like Elmer Fudd, so your MPG may vary.
At one time after I bored the 352 out to 390 standard, adding a 4V, dual exhausts and the Cobra Le Mans oval air cleaner, I got 28.7 MPG on a Route 66 Rod Run from Seligman AZ to Needles CA. Average speed 45 MPH.
My '65 came with the T-85N overdrive, the average city MPG was 8-12. On the highway, it was a different story. Highway MPG usually averaged 18-24.
'Course I drive like Elmer Fudd, so your MPG may vary.
At one time after I bored the 352 out to 390 standard, adding a 4V, dual exhausts and the Cobra Le Mans oval air cleaner, I got 28.7 MPG on a Route 66 Rod Run from Seligman AZ to Needles CA. Average speed 45 MPH.
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I have told Dave before he needs some major tuning on that truck. He should at least be over 15 mpg with OD.
John
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John, Dave lives in 'Maryjaneville' where there are a lotta hills. But even then, the hwy MPG should be...at least 15-18.
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Thanks for everything Guys, gonna look around for a T85, Is it a direct swap? I saw one on ebay up to over 300. Bit would rather buy local for obvious reasons. Never done a transmission swap, so the less required the better.
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Unless your transmission is busted and you need to get going, you could think about a different engine family that would include a more modern OD.
The 302 & the 460 both were available with AODs and maybe EAODs.
The FE was dropped in 76 before OD really became popular.
If you are in a pinch, disregard.
John
The 302 & the 460 both were available with AODs and maybe EAODs.
The FE was dropped in 76 before OD really became popular.
If you are in a pinch, disregard.
John
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You flatlanders who come up with these 'fish tales' 390 getting 15-18 mpg, Oh Yea?
Oh; by the way, what's a highway. From Santa Cruz, Ca. to Lebec, Ca. exactly 300 mi's and drive it fairly regularly; the 65 w/ 302 and T18 makes the trip on a tank of gas, 18 gals. On the otherhand, the 65 w/390 and 3speed O.D., takes 1 1/2 tanks or 28gals. Don't mean to date you characters but have not heard it referred a 'maryjane' since whale bone corsets were in style. However, must admit do enjoy a good Montecristo, or Partagas on occasion.
Oh; by the way, what's a highway. From Santa Cruz, Ca. to Lebec, Ca. exactly 300 mi's and drive it fairly regularly; the 65 w/ 302 and T18 makes the trip on a tank of gas, 18 gals. On the otherhand, the 65 w/390 and 3speed O.D., takes 1 1/2 tanks or 28gals. Don't mean to date you characters but have not heard it referred a 'maryjane' since whale bone corsets were in style. However, must admit do enjoy a good Montecristo, or Partagas on occasion.
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You flatlanders who come up with these 'fish tales' 390 getting 15-18 mpg, Oh Yea? Oh; by the way, what's a highway. From Santa Cruz, Ca. to Lebec, Ca. exactly 300 mi's and drive it fairly regularly; the 65 w/ 302 and T18 makes the trip on a tank of gas, 18 gals. On the otherhand, the 65 w/390 and 3speed O.D., takes 1 1/2 tanks or 28gals. Don't mean to date you characters but have not heard it referred a 'maryjane' since whale bone corsets were in style. However, must admit do enjoy a good Montecristo, or Partagas on occasion.
Oh; by the way, what's a highway. From Santa Cruz, Ca. to Lebec, Ca. exactly 300 mi's and drive it fairly regularly; the 65 w/ 302 and T18 makes the trip on a tank of gas, 18 gals. On the otherhand, the 65 w/390 and 3speed O.D., takes 1 1/2 tanks or 28gals. Don't mean to date you characters but have not heard it referred a 'maryjane' since whale bone corsets were in style. However, must admit do enjoy a good Montecristo, or Partagas on occasion.Don't know what else to tell you.
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Dave the OD must not be engaging, as per your numbers 300 divided by 28 = 10.7 mpg which is pretty normal for the average FE. They will go 12-13 highly tuned and 3.00 or 2.75 rears. There are too many posted here over the years in that range. When a guy comes in here touting 17-18 on direct drive he gets called out, but not if he has OD.
Don't know what else to tell you.
John
Don't know what else to tell you.
John
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Lovin' it in "Maryjaneville",
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