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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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Rating plate ?

I was wanting to see if someone could give me a picture with the dimensions of a rating plate for a 55. I have a friend who does photo etching and stuff like that and he wants to test his new toy that does something like painting designs on metal (kind of like they do with t-shirts) and if it works out we may have a way to make blank rating plates for cheap...
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 02:14 AM
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Making the plates isn't difficult at all. It's finding an embossing machine that's the right size and font, - has asterisks on it - that will hold a plate this narrow and emboss that close to the edge.

But since you asked, the plates are exactly 5 1/2" x 2 1/4"

Here's a pic of my new ones - note they are not stock numbers:

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Is your friend familiar with the copyright and licensing laws involved with producing these tags or if there are any?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Julies Cool F1
Making the plates isn't difficult at all. It's finding an embossing machine that's the right size and font, - has asterisks on it - that will hold a plate this narrow and emboss that close to the edge.

But since you asked, the plates are exactly 5 1/2" x 2 1/4"

Here's a pic of my new ones - note they are not stock numbers:

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Is your friend familiar with the copyright and licensing laws involved with producing these tags or if there are any?
Thanks Julie, ? for you though is your plate the same size as a 55's or are they bigger/smaller? When my buddy and I were talking about it we thought about the trademarks/copyright stuff but honestly we dont know how they will turn out and if we did something like that it would only be available to us here in the forums one of those "a buddy helping out a buddy" type of things if ya know what I mean...lol
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 03:02 AM
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Thanks Julie, ? for you though is your plate the same size as a 55's or are they bigger/smaller? When my buddy and I were talking about it we thought about the trademarks/copyright stuff but honestly we dont know how they will turn out and if we did something like that it would only be available to us here in the forums one of those "a buddy helping out a buddy" type of things if ya know what I mean...lol
I know what ya mean!

Yep that plate was used from late 51 through at least 56. Same size!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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"buddies helping buddies" is a good invitation to have a meeting/greeting from the Ford Motor Comapny legal team. Those folks have taken a dim view of trademark infringement in recent years, confiscating websites and forcing businesses to change their names, even though they've had the name, in some cases, for 50 years. Since the name Ford and the script font are both registered trademarks of FoMoCo, if your friend intends to make plates like that available to others, he needs to look into the licensing procedure or risk a lawsuit.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 52 Merc
"buddies helping buddies" is a good invitation to have a meeting with the Ford Motor Company legal team. Those folks have taken a dim view of trademark infringement in recent years, confiscating websites and forcing businesses to change their names, even though they've had the name, in some cases, for 50 years. Since the name Ford and the script font are both registered trademarks of FoMoCo, if your friend intends to make plates like that available to others, he needs to look into the licensing procedure or risk a lawsuit.
Especially how the Mustang crowd has been taking a hit on this.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Julies Cool F1
Making the plates isn't difficult at all. It's finding an embossing machine that's the right size and font, - has asterisks on it - that will hold a plate this narrow and emboss that close to the edge.

But since you asked, the plates are exactly 5 1/2" x 2 1/4"

Here's a pic of my new ones - note they are not stock numbers:

Attachment 29062

Is your friend familiar with the copyright and licensing laws involved with producing these tags or if there are any?
Do you know where I can have a 51-52 F1 rating plate made? Midfifty no longer makes them.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Digg
Do you know where I can have a 51-52 F1 rating plate made? Midfifty no longer makes them.
Might try here
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 09:04 PM
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I know for a fact that AG Back east advertises that they make them, but when I called, I spoke to the original owner of the business who told told me he is now retired and has turned the business over to his son, and his son stopped making the 51-52 Rating plates. The other links all take me to the same AG Back East.

Thank you for reaching out.
 

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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 09:21 PM
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This place can make any kind of plate:

DataPlates.net - Professional Products for the Electrical, Plumbing, and HVAC Industries - Engraved panel tags, phenolic tags, ID tags, labels, data plates, allen bradley, ab800t, AB800T

You would have to provide the artwork, and they don't do the raised stamping. I had mine engraved at a trophy shop.

Speaking of trophy shops, some of them can reproduce the plates. Again, they won't have the raised stamping.
 
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There is a seller on ebay, jwit458, that custom produces the plates in the USA. Do a search on ebay and you'll find them. I'm very satisfied with the plate they supplied for a '46 Tudor project.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FortyNiner
There is a seller on ebay, jwit458, that custom produces the plates in the USA. Do a search on ebay and you'll find them. I'm very satisfied with the plate they supplied for a '46 Tudor project.
I found jwit458 and send a message. Thank you. I will let you know how it goes.
 

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