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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Some carb adjusting input please

So I took the 66 donor (with a 79 302) over to get the dreaded emission test as I want to plate it for transporting parts. Well I managed to fail the CO test, telling me it is running rich. Now of course I was not suprised as my track record with the emmision shops is not too keen on anyhting I own older than a 1990. So when i arrived at home, I cannot let things lie so I started backing out the adjusting screws of the little 2-brl carb. Once I got to a point i felt was satisfactory, I screwed teh adjusters back it to see how far out I was. I managed to make it our 5 turns on each side (yes teh air is thin at 5000ft above sea level), but it smelt like it was running richer than before. Now somebody check my stats here, I normally seat the screws and back out 2 1/2 turns. Any further out does lean the mixture - correct??? Of course I know that I can drop down a jet size, but I think I will hold off on that if I fail the test again (it is only $15 with a free re-test). Perhaps a bottle of rubbing alcohol will heat things up enough too???
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Further out richens the idle mixture.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Not to say you shouldn't get your truck running the best it can, but did you know that the laws changed, and if you put Classic plates on a 66 you never have to get an emissions test in Colorado? I was working my butt off until I found that out, and then i went and got plates no questions asked.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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On 68 289/302 I usually start at 1 1/2 turns then decrease mixture until slight drop in idle speed then slight increase in mixture; same with the other. After adj. mixture recheck timing. Usually runs around 8 degrees btc, with altitute may vary.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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Thanks gang. I knew of the Classic plates as I have them on the Cougar, but I am only looking short term on this truck and didn't want to dump the $$$. She is set at 8 degrees, it is usually just right for this altitude as well. I will go back to the drawing board and pull them out 1 1/2 to start with and adjust accordingly...
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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Thanks gang. I knew of the Classic plates as I have them on the Cougar, but I am only looking short term on this truck and didn't want to dump the $$$. She is set at 8 degrees, it is usually just right for this altitude as well. I will go back to the drawing board and pull them out 1 1/2 to start with and adjust accordingly...
Put a vacuum gauge on the intake manifold port
Adjust each idle screw til you get the highes vacuum reading.

Done
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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What air fuel is recommended at idle on these old trucks?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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What air fuel is recommended at idle on these old trucks?
Idle 41-16 depends on camshaft and compression


midrange 13.5-14

wide open 13.5-14

never will get it perfect with a carb
but you can buy a AFR gauge and get it closer

best bet is EFI Multi-port

EFI set up properly will turn a 10mpg 390 @60mph into a 17.5-21mpg truck (2wd)

But most shy away from EFI using cost as an Excuse...when really it is lack of knowledge

retrofitting is not that expensive if already rebuidling the engine
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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I hear ya. I was just not sure if there were compromises in carbs. I have not messed around with a carb in probably 10 years. I have been playing with EFI. With my Subaru, it is as easy as plugging in the laptop and hitting a couple keys to change idle, timing, etc.

I actually already own a wideband o2 meter. But I didn't know if these liked to idle around 14.7 like modern cars do or if you had to idle them a bit richer due to the carb. Multi-port would be nice, but I am not going to bother till I have a new motor in there.
 
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