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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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When I had the trans redone and set up for towing I told them that I was planning on a 429. They said they picked a converter to go well with the 429, but don't know any info on it.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Food for thought. Before getting some old heads to put in you will need to consider the valve seats will have to be replaced to be run with unleaded gas. Compare the cost of the heads, new springs and seat replacement verse the cost of a set of aluminum from elderbrock.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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Food for thought. Before getting some old heads to put in you will need to consider the valve seats will have to be replaced to be run with unleaded gas. Compare the cost of the heads, new springs and seat replacement verse the cost of a set of aluminum from elderbrock.

That's what I've been thinking
 
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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I am running a 71 429 in a 76 highboy. Have played with this engine set up for 10+ yrs now. I agree with the low compression heads making a difference. pulling the casting numbers off the heads and running them will tell you a lot on what you have got to work with. I understand the " poor mans rebuild" as i have done the same, usually because parts that are proven, and inside of specs are tuff to replace when you are building a whole project that is sucking up money rather than just an engine!
The couple hints that I have found over time is to run a heavier set of flywieghts in your distributer, (They Like a strong advance curve) Also to keep the bottom end crisp a bigger carb isn't always the answer. I also finaly droped a little coin on a cam and was very pleased with the results. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 42x
Food for thought. Before getting some old heads to put in you will need to consider the valve seats will have to be replaced to be run with unleaded gas. Compare the cost of the heads, new springs and seat replacement verse the cost of a set of aluminum from elderbrock.
The dove heads I was talking about early in the thread are completly built, ported, hardened seats, ready to run for $1025. If cost is close then ID go aluminum every time, but IMO the doves for a grand are a great deal for a stock 429.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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Doing a quick search I found $953 each at Jegs Edelbrock 60669 Edelbrock Ford 460 Performer RPM Heads

D0VE are good heads. Aluminum does reduce weight and give you more HP due to less heat but the weight issue is not really important in a truck.

I agree with the larger is not better CFM on carbs - my car runs a 735cfm which would be considered small by many accounts but it flys - 90mpg in 2nd gear on back roads - too fast to look when in 3rd....
 
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 42x
Doing a quick search I found $953 each at Jegs Edelbrock 60669 Edelbrock Ford 460 Performer RPM Heads

D0VE are good heads. Aluminum does reduce weight and give you more HP due to less heat but the weight issue is not really important in a truck.

I agree with the larger is not better CFM on carbs - my car runs a 735cfm which would be considered small by many accounts but it flys - 90mpg in 2nd gear on back roads - too fast to look when in 3rd....
The biggest mistake most hot rodder makes is OVER CARBURATION. It hurts low end and mid-range throttle response and at best adds 1 or two mph on the top end. And just how much time do you actually spend at max RPM unless you are running NASCAR? FYI, guess what size carb the 428CJ and SCJ ran? That's right a 735 CFM Holley carb. A great street setup for a 429.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
The biggest mistake most hot rodder makes is OVER CARBURATION. It hurts low end and mid-range throttle response and at best adds 1 or two mph on the top end. And just how much time do you actually spend at max RPM unless you are running NASCAR? FYI, guess what size carb the 428CJ and SCJ ran? That's right a 735 CFM Holley carb. A great street setup for a 429.
Has anyone mentioned timing? Whats the timing on the motor? Also why you had it all out, you could have maybe thrown in a stock 460 rotating assembly for next to nothin...That would help the torque.

Also, about the oil pressure...did you check bearing clearances with a plastigauge? Its possible the motor's been rebuilt and the crank was turned down, if you put in stock bearings the clearances would be loose causing low oil pressure...

About carbs...bigger is defidently not always better. Big carbs are for high rpm / hi flow heads. A 650cfm carb on a 429 would work fine, spinning to 5k with those sotck heads and stock exhaust manifolds.

On yeah and ditching the intake for an edelbrock performer dual plane would help low end as well...
 
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The timing is straight up, double roller set for a pre 70 IIRC. I checked the bearings at installiation and everything was good. Didn't have oil probs till after it came back from the garage.
I'm running a performer 460 intake and L&L headers
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 79_250RangerLariat
The timing is straight up, double roller set for a pre 70 IIRC. I checked the bearings at installiation and everything was good. Didn't have oil probs till after it came back from the garage.
I'm running a performer 460 intake and L&L headers
Sorry if I missed that earlier. Thanks for clearing that up...What about ignition timing though,
 
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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I don't remeber for sure where it's running degree wise w/a light. I'll have to check
 
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 79_250RangerLariat
I don't remeber for sure where it's running degree wise w/a light. I'll have to check
Yeah that could have alot to do with your issues, if its retarded it will be sluggish.
 
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