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Old 08-24-2009, 05:53 PM
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I have bought a couple of used parts on ebay for my 66 and one of them is an ignition. It came assembled and I need to get it apart before I can mount it in the dash. Can someone tell me how to disassemble it so I can mount it?

Secondly, my truck has a hole above the ignition and I don't know what mounts in that hole. It is obviously a factory hole, but I don't know what goes there.

Lastly, my truck doesn't have a water valve in the heater line, and I want to get one, and install a cable to control it. I know that some of the old trucks had one. I had a 64 years ago that had a cable actuated water valve. If anyone has the valve and the cable set up I would love to buy them.
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:11 PM
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The winshield washer button goes in the hole above the ignition. as far as the heater hose valve that should be easy.... but i do not know what years/truck would fit
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:09 PM
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Turn the key to ACC, insert a small wire in the hole in the face of the switch, push in gently while turning the key past ACC. Remove the key and tumbler. From the back of the switch, push the switch forward (towards the steering wheel) and turn it to the left. Remove the chrom bezel and the switch. Do a couple of dry fits before you reinstall the replacement and it will go togeather easier.
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:17 PM
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Thanks a ton. It is always the little things. I knew I had to be missing something small the move past ACC is what I was missing.
 
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My truck has a water valve in line in the heater hose in the engine bay, but there is no cable running to it. It is for 'seasonal' use. It stops the flow of water through the core. When it's open, the water will circulate through the core but if the heater inside the truck isn't on I don't believe it receives airflow to transfer the heat to the cab.
 
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:26 AM
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I have one like Dwight, just grab any ball valve for 1/2" copper or pvc water pipe. It will have a 5/8" od and will fit the hose.

I picked up one at Advance Auto a few years back that could have a cable connected.



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The convenience of having a cable controlled water valve is nice, especially in climates where the weather changes often. I put in a cable controled valve in my '66 and rigged up a throttle cable from a lawn mower mounter under the dash. It doesn't look as funky as it sounds and it works great. Steve
 
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The convenience of having a cable controlled water valve is nice, especially in climates where the weather changes often. I put in a cable controled valve in my '66 and rigged up a throttle cable from a lawn mower mounter under the dash. It doesn't look as funky as it sounds and it works great. Steve
I really like it when someone can improvise and make it work. Blows number dummy out of the water. he says, screw the manual I says.



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Originally Posted by Broomfieldbum
My truck doesn't have a water valve in the heater line, and I want to get one, and install a cable to control it. I know that some of the old trucks had one. I had a 64 years ago that had a cable actuated water valve. If anyone has the valve and the cable set up I would love to buy them.
Does your truck have the Deluxe fresh air heater?

The Deluxe fresh air heater has two cables mounted under the dash on a bracket, to the right of the steering column.

If you have this heater, one of these cables controls the heater water valve which is spliced into the inlet heater hose that routes to the heater core.

The other cable opens/closes the fresh air duct.

C3UZ18495A .. Heater Water Valve (Motorcraft YG133) / Available from Ford / Fits: 1961/66 F100/1100 / 1967/72 F100/750 / 1961/67 E100.

MSRP: $38.46 // FTE sponsor Y2KFORDPARTS.COM price: $23.08.
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C5TZ18518A .. Heater Temperature Control Cable ~ Use with Deluxe Fresh Air Heater / Obsolete

DON SANDERSON FORD in Glendale AZ has FIVE = 623-842-8762.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has TWO = 800-543-4959.
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If you do not have the Deluxe fresh air heater, you have the "Economy" heater which does not use a cable operated heater water valve.

The Economy heater uses a shut-off valve that is spliced into the inlet heater hose. Its **** resembles a wing nut.

C5TZ18495A .. Heater Water Shut Off Valve ~ Use with Economy Heater (Motorcraft YG130) / Obsolete

Fits: 1965/66 F100/1100 / 1961/67 N/NT500/1000.

JST AUTOMOTIVE in Lebanon TN has ONE = 615-443-3086.

KINSEL L/M in Beaumont TX has FOUR = 800-816-2894.

PARTS INTERNATIONAL in Farmers Branch TX has FOUR = 888-727-0418.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has SEVEN = 800-543-4959.
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Y'all can plainly see that I was able to type all this info, because I

btw: The OP is aware of the following, because he P/M'd me, but for the rest of y'all:

2C11500A .. W/Shield Wiper Washer Switch (Motorcraft SW287) / Mounts into the dash above the ignition switch / Available from Ford.

Fits 1965/66 F100/250 / 1966 E100 / 1948/52 ALL Trucks.

MSRP: $11.33 // FTE sponsor Y2KFORDPARTS.COM price: $6.12.

On 1948/52 trucks, this switch is the starter button!
 
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:02 AM
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Thanks for the info NumberDummy.

I ordered that CD you told me about. I am wondering if there are any other differences between the basic heater, and the Deluxe heater other than that valve? The under the hood valve must have been removed at some point, because it is no longer there. From what I can tell this truck was the base model for '66. I think there is nothing that wasn't the cheapest thing you could get. So the reason for the upgrade is I am in Colorado. I have seen the temp drop 53 degrees in 15 minutes. Just the way things are here. Therefore being able to turn on and off the flow of water in the cab is needed IMHO.

I will likely order all of the parts and upgrade my heat to deluxe. If there is more to it than the cable and valve I will likely look for a donor truck to pull the majority of the parts from.
 
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The Economy heater uses a shut-off valve that is spliced into the inlet heater hose. Its **** resembles a wing nut.

C5TZ18495A .. Heater Water Shut Off Valve ~ Use with Economy Heater (Motorcraft YG130) / Obsolete

Fits: 1965/66 F100/1100 / 1961/67 N/NT500/1000.

Bill,
Where in the inlet heater hose was the Economy Heater Shut Off Valve located
in the same location as was the deluxe cable-operated valve, mid-way between the water pump and the firewall on the RH inner fender inside the engine compartment?

2C11500A .. W/Shield Wiper Washer Switch (Motorcraft SW287) / Mounts into the dash above the ignition switch / Available from Ford.

Fits 1965/66 F100/250 /....

Wasn't the electric-powered W/Shield Wiper Washers strickly OPTIONAL equipment - as I don't recall it being offered in a package, say in the Custom Cab or CamperSpecial packages?
As I recall, the earlier ('61-'64) windshield wiper washers (only optional equipment as well) were NOT electric-powered; rather used a foot-operated bellows pump that was located on the floor adjacent the dimmer switch.
I would think that either type of heater hose valve would just be a place to eventually clog up with corrosion and water stone and cease to operate correctly.... so if the valve was removed completely and hot water was allowed to flow continuously that potential trouble would be eliminated. I'd guess as long as air wasn't directed through the heater core, the cab won't be heated. Only by pulling on the cable that adjusted the heater duct dampener would heated air be directed into the cab either to the floor or to the dash 'defroster' vents. Or am I missing something?

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Old 08-26-2009, 02:08 PM
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I would think that either type of heater hose valve would just be a place to eventually clog up with corrosion and water stone and cease to operate correctly.... so if the valve was removed completely and hot water was allowed to flow continuously that potential trouble would be eliminated. I'd guess as long as air wasn't directed through the heater core, the cab won't be heated. Only by pulling on the cable that adjusted the heater duct dampener would heated air be directed into the cab either to the floor or to the dash 'defroster' vents. Or am I missing something?

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Both the shut-off valve and heater water valve were installed in the same location...spliced into the inlet heater hose which runs along the right fender apron.

There were two different foot operated washer switches. One was electric, one was manual, in other words you had to pump it. These were dealer installed, AFAIK.

There were two factory installed w/s washers.

One for single speed wipers, the switch fits into the dash above the ignition switch.

The type for 2 speed wipers uses the same switch as the wipers themselves, pushing it in operates the washer motor.

1/1/1966: The new Fed Safety Standards went into effect for passengers cars.

Features that originally were optional were now standard equipment: L/H outside mirror, w/s washers, heater/defroster, backup lights and lap seat belts, for examples.

These same features were standard equipment for 1967 trucks beginning 9/1966.

People make the mistake of equating what trucks come with today as standard equipment...with what they came with back then. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Optional in 1965/1966: AM radio, Economy or Deluxe heater, A/T, 3 speed overdrive, 4 speed manual, power steering (1966), power brakes, limited slip rear axle, two speed wipers, w/s washers, tinted glass, spare tire and the wheel, 300 I-6, 352 2V, lap seat belts, amp and oil pressure gauges, 55 & 65 amp alternators, 55, 70 & 80 amp batteries, H/D shock absorbers, outside mirrors, day/night inside mirror, side mouldings, chrome front bumper, rear bumper (chrome or painted), right hand sunvisor, right/left armrests, yadda yadda yadda.

Some of the above features came as standard equipment with the Custom Cab, Camper Special and Ranger packages.

As far as either the shut-off valve, or heater water valve clogging up....that can happen, either from neglect, or over time.

When one considers all the other 10,000 or so parts that every vehicle has, that can fail. If parts didn't fail, all the automakers would have gone bankrupt years ago.

All the automakers are really in the partsbiz...where over 75% of their profits come from..
 
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:22 PM
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OBSOLETE! hear that. No mo, notta, right Bill??

Got to Lowes or Home Depot and get a 1/2 ball or other valve and and a couple hose clamps then you can turn the water on or off as needed.

In stock every day all day long.

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