Damn Mike I cringed, then laughed at the brake cleaner.......I appreciate it guys and all the stuff you have done for me. It truly really really sucks that I have to stand and watch. It drives me nut but now I have to be very careful because one wrong move doing anything can cause those three to rupture. Its bad enough one is pressing on the nerve enough so they can see it on the MRI. You folks are the best, Thanks for everything....